@shutupuface Nah, I don’t have a problem with differing opinions at all, as long as they’re actually based on intelligent thought rather than generalized dismissals of a music form that doesn’t conform to a predisposed definition. I throw out the "race card" - as you predictably put - because that’s what it is. Look at the thread about country music. How many references to a specific culture or group can you find there? None. Shocker.
"With that being said, I don’t see that it takes alot of "musicianship" or "vocal range" to be a "rap singer". Only the ability to rhyme (not necessarily poetically), and keep a beat. The fact that women are more than referred to in degrading terms ( " ho" *itches") does little to endear my ears to that ilk."
- Try to rap like Chuck D or Dre or Lil Uzi. See if you have to breath control, rhythmic mastery, and ability to control your intonation and elocution to the extent they can.
- Much music made by men degrades or objectifies women, including the Boomer rock you grew up with.
- Your musical resume doesn’t exactly pad your point much.
@ab2ab Thank you for a thought-out rebuttal. I would have posted my original reply whether I would have known your color or not. I mean, racism knows no color boundaries. And yes, I would love to talk with you about drill (which, like trap, is a rap genre I simply don’t find pleasing to listen to. It’s that constant hi-hat which grates on me), its Brooklyn and Chicago bases, and the complex cultural-musical-sonic interplay that gave rise to the genre.
However, as a middle-aged suburban white male, I’m not going to pretend to "understand" where those artists are coming from - the "real culture" as you say. However, I will try to appreciate what they do, whether its King Keef or Lil Durk, rather than post sophomoric crap that permeates this thread.
Truthfully, I prefer artists like Autumn! and other southern rappers more than a Chicago sound.
FWIW, Ice-T recently castigated contemporary rappers as "weak" and "soft". I mean, this is ICE-T saying this! But I still disagree with him. It seems another example of an older guy railing against a new way of doing things, another example of @musicfan2349 's cool thread about finding it harder to like new music the older you get.