More Bass


I recently purchase a pair of Legacy Signature speakers from an on-line retailer. I purchased them unheard, but I did my due diligence in researching them and I would have thought with the 7" woofers and a rated frequency response of 22-30K hz, there would have been a bit more bass (although there is a couple of tunes I have played where there is some bass that is really deep and sounds all garbled, very weird, but I just won’t listen to those songs,I guess).

I bought floor standers so I wouldn’t have to deal with the hassle that goes along with setting up subwoofers, also with all the space they take up and the negative WAF that goes along with them.

They are a little bright on the top end, but I’ll blame that on my room, it probably needs more treating, just limited on funds at the moment.

If I thought I needed subwoofers, I'm thinking I might have bought a pair of Fritz bookshelfs and a pair of subs, for probably less than the Sigs.

The price of Legacy subs is over the top for me, so do you think there is any way to get more bass without subs or are there any subs that are a bit smaller, that might do the trick as I am pretty limited on space (and funds as previously mentioned!) Thanks

 

 

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Welp, there’s a number of published measurements showing this to be optimistic. As I noted elsehwere, I’ve found a couple of different models shown to be around 2 Ohms for most of the bass. This includes the SE and 20/20. Perhaps I’m misinterpreting the statement or the charts?

@erik_squires You have got the measurements for the wrong speaker. You keep bringing up the Focus series. He has the Signature SE. The Signature and Focus are not the same speaker. I don't believe I have ever seen impedance measurements of the Signatures.

Let them break in hundred hours, great way to get great speakers. 
 

most haven’t a clue. 
first 30-50 hours, if don’t sound good, they sell em.

 

pAtience.  Break in, placement, 

took me weeks to get the bass I knew was there,   Many nights, moving, toeing, close, far from wall, one speaker in corner, which when sitting has more sound than other on left, which is next to open hallway' stairs, rooms,

mess w them, I would move a couple inches at a time, then sit, listen, 

took me a whe o get it just right, like the baby bears porridge 

 

recordings also matter, 

 

great speakers, enjoy!

 

maybe a small 12” sub, 

first I would tweak and listen.

 

my speakers took a solid 300 hrs to loosen and open up. 

@navyachts picture speaks a thousand words. is there a way you can add a virtual system with pictures of room and current set up?

That will help with proper recommendations with your current and future setup. 

@mike_in_nc - so how do I go about doing this "Measuring" I once downloaded some room correction software and purchased a microphone off Amazon. I found the whole process beyond me and sent the microphone back. I would need help with this, for sure!

@audiorusty - my apologies, there are two 10" woofer, it's the mid-range that is 7"      There is bass and I'm not looking chest thumping stuff, it just doesn't hit as hard as I would expect. Maybe it's the sealed box that I'm not use to? I will heed some of your other advice and get back to you. Thank you. 

@arcticdeth +1

@audphile1 - yes, working on that. I'm just trying to finish up a major remodel which has led me to tear my rotator cuff, so it hurts to blink at the moment. Going to take a bunch of pain pills and maybe over the weekend, I will try to get that done. 

 

 

 

Two things that strike me about this thread.  One, Legacy speakers are never light on bass.  Two, they also never sound bright (with ample electronics as you seem to have).  I have owned Legacy speakers for 25 years - exclusively.  I've had OG Classics, OG Focus, Silverscreen II, Silverscreen HD (currently own) and Focus SEs (currently own).  When I had crappy electronics back in the late 90s, the Classics could definitely sound a bit harsh.  But they produced very solid bass even with said crappy gear.  I think my amp back then was an Acurus A125X5.  It was cheap but still allowed the Classics to thump pretty hard.  My room was not as big as yours since I rented back then.  But it was open into the dining room and kitchen, so it wasn't too far off.  There was also a slider off to the right going out to a balcony.  And it's coverings were not sound absorbing.  The ceilings were also only 8'.  These probably explain most of that harshness.  How is the room if you walk around and clap? (I recommend doing this when your wife is running an errand :D).  I'm guessing it will echo like crazy...

Room layout and speaker positioning is key and I see that several have mentioned that.  You don't even have to go wild with placement - since I know you are not able to.  A few inches could make a drastic difference.  And don't over-do toe-in.  That is a common mistake.  Mine fire nearly straight out into my room.  Maybe 2 to 4 degrees at the listening position which is 9' away.

Since sound panels or diffusers aren't an option for you, there may be little you can do to tame the room's harshness.  But again, speaker positioning can help to a degree.