Ray Charles - "Rap is not music"


I agree with Ray Charles.

 

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Here’s something tangentially related:

There is a YouTube video (made and posted by Adan Neely, a very knowledgeable, intelligent, and articulate young man) entitled "Music Theory And White Supremacy", in which an interesting topic is explored: the conflating of the concepts of "music theory" (as it is taught) and "the harmonic style of 18th century European musicians", and how "race" is related to that conflating.

The video was posted two years ago, and has been viewed 2.3 million times! It’s 44 minutes long, and believe me is VERY worthy of your time. I’m going to watch it again right now.

@bdp24 These notions that “white supremacy” and music theory are somehow intrinsically linked are so utterly preposterous as to demand any fair-minded person with a modicum of intelligence heartily laugh them out of the room.
We hear a lot of nonsense these days.
We hear people say that expecting someone to be on time for a scheduled engagement is “white supremacy.”

There are 12 damn notes.
“Here’s a basic ordering of those 12 notes that we have.”
That’s all “music theory” is.
Are math, science and writing, “white supremacist?”

This stuff is beyond silly.

However, I can kind of see where he's coming from. Yes, there are only 12 notes in the scale, but how we envision those 12 notes and what we find to be pleasing to the ear and acceptable as a paradigm it's completely based on our Western upbringing. The same can be said for the pentatonic scale if you look into Asian music.

@simao I disagree. What is “pleasing” and “acceptable” is personal preference.  
The arrangement of notes indigenous to other parts of the world may very well be more pleasing to some than that which is predominant in Western-World-based arrangements of notes.  
Of course, for a lot of reasons, Western-World-based views of music have dominated the globe for centuries. That is not necessarily a good thing, but it is a fact nonetheless.  
Especially today, with current technology readily available to such a huge swath of the planet, one can easily access a huge chunk of the cumulative output of Planet Earth’s music. From every neck of the woods.
If one chooses to ignore non-Western music, that is their choice. In my opinion, their loss.  But non-Western music is right there under everyone’s nose at virtually every second of every day.

We can talk about white supremacy, but I see no constructive outcome from saying, “music theory is white supremacy.” 
Even if such an idea was proven to be somehow “truth,” what would we do then? Cease all current teachings of music theory until some U.N.-esque elected body convened to rewrite “musical theory” henceforth? What would that entail? How ultimately constructive would such a thing be?

@tylermunns obviously couldn’t be bothered to watch the video. If he had he would know that the argument is NOT being made against what he obviously thinks it is.

Examined and discussed in the video is not just how race is involved, but also gender, culture, nationality, and several other factors.