Tidal class-action


MQA declared bankruptcy.  I smell the fear of a class action lawsuit against Tidal.  We could do that.  Tidal has 8 million subscribers, we don't know how many or how long they all were paying double by subscribing to the 'nobody can prove Tidal has any tracks higher than 44.1khz' plan.  They probably have lots of people on phones who haven't even heard of MQA who trust them and wanted the one that sounds better.  They're right not to have to listen to any talk about MQA if they want the plan that sounds better.

MQA means you can't prove the file is an original copy or not. That Beethoven track you like it says is 192 could actually be Dua Lipa at 11khz.

The bankruptcy move was probably to protect themselves from Tidal, who is the receiver of people's funds.

 

audioisnobiggie

@mitch2 +1. good point!  

"...sold it to many of us, and nobody can prove it is exactly what they say it is?

That doesn’t sound so different from most of the audio tweaks we buy."

audioisnobiggie,

Dude, I never post here, just read, but I couldn’t pass this one up. 
 

I had no idea Audio has conspiracy theorists nut jobs!  Thanks for all the lolz reading your comments in this thread. 
 

But seriously, for your health, and the safety of others, please take your prescription medication. 

@audioguy85 

never understood why anyone would pay to stream

Streaming gives you access to millions of albums. If you add roon, you get links to other music you may be interested in every time you select an album to play. You also get additional information on many of the artists and albums, all at a reasonable cost.

If you like discovering new music or listening to albums you might want to hear once but not pay $10 to $15 for, streaming is the way to go.

tl:dr

artists and studios should start selling tiered levels of tracks based on more realistic pricing with bulk discounts.  Stream lossy, buy hires.  Streaming hires just uses too much bandwidth.  Tie tracks to key pair scheme and reissue keys for free, or a nominal fee to purchasers of record for 50 or 75 years. Get rid of physical media to reduce costs.

start stream of consciousness….  ;-)

Tidal mqa tracks frequently get interrupted and they use much more bandwidth than qobuzz”hd”.. (rural area)

I cannot even listen to an entire track from tidal “masters”.

streaming is a convenience… thats all.  Been too busy to do ripping, cataloguing, playlists etc.

personally would rather just buy hires and play from NAS. Finding what I want is a pita though.

And yes, I can tell the difference between a sparse and a dense file playing on my system.. especially as I increase the volume.

Wish the studios, or the artists, would just start, more widely and greater selection, selling tiers of product with increasing data density.

But I also get the whole piracy thing being a huge issue. Maybe utilizing some kind of key pair scheme with tpm (as long as you can transfer your keys to a new device)  Studios could eventually just sell the keys to enable playback.. then they wouldn’t have to provide as much bandwidth either..  say I give someone a copy of, lr torrent, a BD I burned as a backup, the recipient wouldn’t be able to play any of the tracks without a key.. I wouldn’t give them mine.. but they could just buy  a new key.  People sharing keys would need to be subject to penalties.

Though I will say that whoever is doing the selling MUST keep records for 75 years and re-issue keys, maybe for a nominal charge, for already purchased unlocked tracks. It’s just plain stupid that vendors can charge for a replacement copy of , or access to, a digital file.

However, a more realistic approach to pricing would help also.  
some people will always steal, even if the product were $00.01 apiece, but I think alot of people would willingly buy a 192/24 (or 32) at something like $00.25 song for a 2-3 hundred track collection.

I could get on board being able to buy an artist’s entire collection, say AC/DC or Metallica at 192 (not lars’s base heavy remix with his left to right circular crossfading bs though). Back it up on a blue ray and stick that in in a safe and use a nas on the lan for source to dac. add key to NAS for file unlocking.  Or even just an individual song for a buck.… have a discount scheme for purchasing an entire album or collection. Less money for lower “quality” (aka tiers of mp3,  lossy and lossless).  Studios could compete also on codecs… who does more etc and which ones (alac, flac etc) The whole physical media thing is not needed any longer anyway.. well, except for vinyl… those folks need to have a product to spend that money on…

Then maybe we could get away from these “ultimate quality” compression or “folding” or other types of bs, get the artists paid, the studios paid, control piracy a bit and everyone can enjoy the, honest, level of compression they are willing to purchase and listen to. (And no, I don’t care what anyone has to say about “all you need is 44.1”.. or 96, or 192 or whatever.  reminds me of gates saying no one would ever need more than 640kb of ram…). End of my rant for the day..