Vibration isolation or absorption?


You see those pointy things at the bottom of a speaker that are very very sharp.  Arguably a weapon in the wrong hands.  And then you see those same pointy things inserted into a disk.

So the pointy things, aka ‘spikes’ , can Channel vibration elsewhere and away from the components and speakers, or they can isolate it.

Seems channeling vibration away from a component/ speaker, which I guess is absorption, is preferable.

Is this true? And why do they keep saying isolation.

 

emergingsoul

You are indeed playing semantic games, and are clearly biased given that you have related products for sale. Also, please stop with the straw men.

That difference that can be very important, and your attempts to conflate them, presumably for marketing purposes, are obvious. 

Whipsaw,

All I did was answer your questions. Sorry if I offended you. 

I am here to show there is a superior methodology that exists in this industry and has for a very long time. We are capable of explaining more, having more experience, and seeing through the newfound world of decoupling products and their hundreds of manufacturers with their own stories. 

Add to that, we are willing to put our products to any test in your own home with your own system. There are no straw men in that offer.

We also have a right to use AudioGon for advertising or promotional purposes as we pay a monthly fee to their advertising programs. There are a host of dealers, manufacturers, and reviewers doing this on all forum-based businesses. Some of them hide behind the smoke and others come forth and admit it. Either way, marketing is like vibration, it is everywhere.

Send me pics of your room and system. I will tell you what I think and recommend items, not necessarily ours, that will improve your system. 

Robert

 

@audiopoint 

We also have a right to use AudioGon for advertising or promotional purposes as we pay a monthly fee to their advertising programs. There are a host of dealers, manufacturers, and reviewers doing this on all forum-based businesses. Some of them hide behind the smoke and others come forth and admit it. Either way, marketing is like vibration, it is everywhere.

 

Wow, I almost had to do a double take!

Such candidness is unlikely to make many friends but it is certainly refreshing to see such honesty in a public forum.

As for your statement :

I was ridiculed, called stupid names, and took everything the members dished out.

In my opinion, the High-End Audio Industry is hesitant to accept change or new advancements in technical achievements until there is advertising money involved.

 

That sounds about right too (just check out some of the recent ASR threads).

This open approach is no doubt the better way to do business. For that I wish you continued success. It's only fair and right that the customer deserves sympathetic respect and not routine deception.

It's quite amazing how the market for decoupling products has grown to such an extent in such a short time. We're now even seeing lossy decoupling being built in to products such as the Q Acoustics Concept range of loudspeakers.

 

All I did was answer your questions. Sorry if I offended you. 

I am here to show there is a superior methodology that exists in this industry and has for a very long time. We are capable of explaining more, having more experience, and seeing through the newfound world of decoupling products and their hundreds of manufacturers with their own stories. 

Robert, I find your continued dishonesty, coupled with arrogance, to be deeply off-putting. 

Had you joined this thread and made it clear that you manufacture and sell coupling devices (e.g. spikes, etc.), then readers might have better understood your efforts to denigrate decoupling devices. Instead, you made no clear mention of your conflict of interest, and attempted, dishonestly, to argue that decoupling is somehow unscientific. 

Now you claim to have a "superior methodology", and the ability to see "through the newfound world of decoupling products and their hundreds of manufacturers with their own stories."

Never mind that Isoacoustics and Townsend Audio, arguably the two leaders in decoupling technology for audiophiles, have been in business for over 10 and 20 years respectively. Never mind that some very high-class manufacturers (e.g. Marten, Wolf von Langa, Spatial, Dynaudio, etc.) are including such products with some of their models.

So no, it's not a "newfound world", but one with decades of R&D and sales to its credit. And any suggestion that those manufacturers are somehow missing the boat because they aren't using your products instead would be dubious, to put it very kindly.

Let me be clear about something: I have not heard your products, and make no judgement about them. Perhaps they are excellent in some applications, and represent very good value. But even if that were true it would be beside the point.

I have no problem with manufacturers or dealers marketing their products, but have no patience for those who choose to do so in other than a transparent, and straightforward manner. If you were willing to give some credit to other manufacturers, and recognize the value of decoupling devices in certain applications, I, and I expect other readers, would likely be more open to your efforts to differentiate your products. 

As it stands, I see mostly hyperbole, dubious tactics, and arrogance.

Actually, Townshend Audio has been in business since 1975. Max started the company to manufacture and market a turntable design that was the end result of intense research into the playback of LP records led by Professor Jack Dinsdale at Cranfield University in England---the legendary Rock Turntable.

The original Townshend Audio isolation product was named The Seismic Sink (introduced in 1989), which was a top and bottom platform separated from one another by from one to three inflatable inner tubes, a very old idea dating back to the 1950’s (WWII-era audiophiles made their own, using bicycle inner tubes and paving stones). I placed my Rock Elite table on one for years---very effective. My Rock now sits on a platform supported by a set of four Seismic Pods, even more effective.

The current Seismic Pod, Bar, Platform, and Podium are state-of-the-art isolation products, the best on the market in the opinion of many. Not cheap, but priced lower than products by the likes of HRS.