Since you said you would consider DIY, my recommendation is to add a Zobel Network to each driver in the enclosure. Almost every loudspeaker can be improved by flattening the impedance curve and therefore allowing the crossover to perform at its best. All you need to do is remove each speaker, disconnect the wires, and measure the DC resistance and Inductance with a meter. Attach the calculated resistor and capacitor in series between the terminals, reattach the wires and replace the speaker.
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If you are really keen, you could then add a Zobel Network to the external loudspeaker terminals after doing fresh measurements, and then perhaps even add another Zobel Network at the amplifier. Disconnect the speaker wires and measure the resistance and inductance of the wires while still connected to the speaker.
Can you give me your speaker suggestions?
Currently looking for new speakers as I have grown tired with mine, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions that you think would fit my needs!
I had a pair of heresy iii speakers and loved the sound from 600hz and up but felt pretty much everything below that was thin sounding with no weight. I built a bigger ported cabinet for the drivers and it made a decent improvement from say 40-90hz ish but I still needed a subwoofer. 100-400hz still sounded thin, drums lack that punch and impact and male vocals lack weight and presence.
Basically I am looking for a speaker that gives you the "musicians are in the room" feeling that the heresy gives me but deliver more in the lower midrange/upper bass area.
I listen to jazz, femal/male vocals, 70's rock, 80' pop etc.. across all genres the heresy is equally good and equally bad (no matter what genre it feels like the 100-400hz area is sucked out of the room).. speaking of the room im in a 15foot by 22 foot room (its an L shape, half way down the 22 foot wall extends another 22 feet about 550sqft total). not an ideal room but its the only place I have.
I am using a prima luna prologue premium with 37ish watt/channel, I currently purchased a Pathos logos mk ii with 110wpc into 8, and immediately noticed my main area of concern sounded even thinner, the more powerful hybrid amp sounds less powerful, less meat on the bones if that makes sense. when I get new speakers, I will sell one of the amps.
my current budget is around $4-6K USD, I would consider purchasing used, or even a diy kit.
the sonetto V reviews seem to tell me they will fit my needs, does anyone have any thoughts?
thank you in advanced!!
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@captaindidactic I will look into those, I have no problem going the diy route, I’ve watched some of his videos on YouTube and he seems to know what he’s doing.
update: I got my hands on a eq and had to boost the the 200hz range 4-6db to find a satisfying level. some people have told me it might be a room problem or a source problem because I shouldn’t have to boost it that much in order to find it satisfying. out of curiosity I dusted off a 20 year old psb bookshelf speaker that my dad had in storage (6ohm 88db). immediately the range I was missing was there, more weight and punch out of a 6 inch two way with the same source and both my amps ran them with no problem. of course with these speakers Im missing the open midrange range and upper frequencies, im missing the way acoustics guitars, vocals and horns just seem to flow out so effortlessly as they do with the heresys. and of course the same sense of scale was not there with the bookshelf. but it was nice to know it seems to not be a room or source issue, and so I will continue the hunt for new speakers.
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Palutena, I highly recommend installing a dedicated circuit and a high quality receptacle like the Furutech GTX-D. This was one of the biggest improvements for low frequency response and attack. Dedicated line is about $300 to $400, and the receptacle is about $175. This will pay large dividends whether you keep or change your speakers. Better yet have a second line pulled, might be a couple hundred dollars more. Use one line for only the amplifier (Plug amp directly into the receptacle and NOT through a conditioner), and the other for signal components. Use a good power cable, Zavfino, Audioquest , or DH Labs make good cables for a reasonable cost…..$200 to $300, more expensive if you choose. |
For DIY, check out my modded Tyler acoustics Halo Extreme. Upgraded crossover, Audio Maven 12inch woofers , morel mids and Seas millennium tweeters. Giant killers. Low dB and you hear it all. The speakers were very nice to begin with but I wanted more and got a little carried away. Hope Ty don't get mad at me. |
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