What does it take to be a die hard Beatles fan?


I am the first to admit that I am a Beatles fan. And might even say that I am die hard. A recent film and recent album has me questioning the latter.

Peter Jackson's film "Get Back" and the 2022 "de-mixed" release of "Revolver" were both somewhat over the top for even a long time Beatles fan.

I had difficulty getting through both the film and the album.

Yes, it was pretty cool to get an inside look at the prep for the famous rooftop concert. But it became tedious to listen to all the "bla bla" in the studio and the endless fiddling of non Beatles songs.

Not to mention all that time "practicing" in the studio to come up with 3 or 4 songs.

And it was cool to hear the de-mixed versions of Revolver material, but 63 tracks with much relatively meaningless stuff took me 2 days to get through. 

I certainly can appreciate the attraction to the behind the scenes things.

But neither the film or the album gave me much insight into who these guys are were/are.

The film was especially disappointing.

 

 

mglik

@jasonbourne71 - I was watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan that night with my parents and some other family friends. Of course, my father said something like 'Maybe Ed will pay 'em enough to get haircuts...' . 

Yes, it was pretty cool to get an inside look at the prep for the famous rooftop concert. But it became tedious to listen to all the "bla bla" in the studio and the endless fiddling of non Beatles songs.

I'm a huge Beatles' fan too and I totally agree with you. Maybe I just like to eat the bread and not take a complete tour of how bread is made, from wheat field to reaping to grinding to...etc. I mean, the songs are the point for me, not the hagiography.

 

 

Speaking of the non-Beatles songs they play in the studio rehearsals for the rooftop performance:

In his YouTube review of the movie, Rick Beato (whom I really like) marvels at how many songs The Beatles know (referring to the "oldies" they attempt to play). Well, they sort of remember those non-Beatle songs, but they certainly don’t perform them very well in those studio recordings. I know they were just "fooling around", but still. Their performances of those songs imo provide ample evidence that my assertion The Beatles were not a very good band---strictly in terms of being "a band"---is plainly obvious. You may disagree.

It was their songs that made them great, not their abilities as a band. IMO, of course. Most Rock bands are better at being a band than they are at songwriting. With The Beatles (no pun intended ;-) the opposite is true.

@bdp24 “That damn sitar ruined George as a guitarist”

What could possibly support such a statement?

John & Paul increasingly wrote apart not together (they really needed each other, the whole being vastly greater than the sum of it's parts)”

- P.S. I Love You (Paul)
- Please Please Me (John)
- All My Loving (Paul)
- All I’ve Got to Do (John)
- This Boy (John)
- Things We Said Today (Paul)
- I Should Have Known Better (John)
- She’s a Woman (Paul)
- I Feel Fine (John)
- I’ll Follow the Sun (Paul)
- I’m a Loser (John)
- Yes it Is (John)
- The Night Before (Paul)
- It’s Only Love (John)
- I’ve Just Seen a Face (Paul)
- You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away (John)
- Yesterday (Paul)
- Day Tripper (John)
- You Won’t See Me (Paul)
- Nowhere Man (John)
- I’m Looking Through You (Paul)
- Girl (John)
- Paperback Writer (Paul)
- I’m Only Sleeping (John)
- Here, There and Everywhere (Paul)
- She Said, She Said (John)
- For No One (Paul)
- Got to Get You Into My Life (Paul)
- Strawberry Fields Forever (John)
- Penny Lane (Paul)
- Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (John)
- Fixing a Hole (Paul)
- All You Need is Love (John)
- Hello, Goodbye (Paul)
- I am the Walrus (John)
- Your Mother Should Know (Paul)
- The Fool on the Hill (Paul)
- Across the Universe (John)
- Lady Madonna (Paul)
- Dear Prudence (John)
- Martha My Dear (Paul)
- Glass Onion (John)
- Blackbird (Paul)
- Happiness is a Warm Gun (John)
- I Will (Paul)
- Julia (John)
- Mother Nature’s Son (Paul)
- Sexy Sadie (John)
- Honey Pie (Paul)
- Cry Baby Cry (John)
- Hey Jude (Paul)
- Dig a Pony (John)
- Let it Be (Paul)
- Because (John)
- You Never Give Me Your Money (Paul)
- Instant Karma! (We All Shine On) (John)
- Maybe I’m Amazed (Paul)
- Mother (John)
- Junk (Paul)
- Isolation (John)
- Too Many People (Paul)
- Remember (John)
- Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (Paul)
- Love (John)
- Backseat of My Car (Paul)
- Look at Me (John)
- Band on the Run (Paul)
- Imagine (John)
- Let ‘Em In (Paul)
- Jealous Guy (John)
- Arrow Through Me (Paul)
- Oh My Love (John)
- Woman is the N***** of the World (John)  
- #9 Dream (John)
- Beautiful Boy (John)
- Free as a Bird (John)
- Grow Old with Me (John)

I think either John or Paul, whether it was early days, middle days, later days, or solo days, did okay on their own.

 

Nothing from the Hard Days Night era?  IMO, some of the best Lennon stuff ever.