The damper, the tension wire and cantilever position

@nandric I have not contributed to make my place within the thread as having a upper hand.

I have been prompted to be a contributor, in relation to a ’deviant’ cantilever, that looks straight in a groove.

I myself have been wanting to see an alternative description supplied within this thread as an explanation on this subject, as my knowledge is limited to my experiences.

My experiences have been that when a cantilever is discovered askew, it raises concern, and for some who have encountered this condition, the Cart’ is sent to a professional for further analysis. 

The info I draw on to produce my offered description, is from knowing individuals who have sent askew cantilever Cart’s away for a prognosis, (not all own up to this there is a Stigma) and the regular visits I make to Web Pages that specifically show the types of condition a Cart’ can arrive with and the intrinsic work a Cart’ undergoes to correct the conditions it has had when supplied to a Technician to undergo inspection and repairs.

I am with no other knowledge, that will suggest a askew cantilever is not the manifestation of another interface part being ’out’ on its designed for optimised set up.

This statement in itself is devaluing to the product and suggests monies are required to be parted with to receive a professionals assessment.

Monies don’t have to be parted with, if the suggestion is believed the Styli being placed in the Groove is an adequate corrective measure. This as a corrective methodology, is not a method for that I am able to endorse.

A ’deviant’ cantilever, is already showing signs it is with a compromised interface, and as such is capable of working outside of the designed operational envelope, and not be able to interface with the parts is interfacing with as par the design.

I am quite unfamiliar with discussion where the idea on the table, is that a askew cantilever is able to give one confidence of being a performer that is fit for purpose.

Pindac, To check my finding you need an cart with deviation to the left or

right side from straight and than simply repeat my experiment. If you don't

get the  same result , aka straight cantilever during the play than my ''theory''

is  wrong provided the damper is not defective. If the damper is defective

you can't play an rocord. Either the cantileevr will not  move at all or it will

colapse becaiuse the damper is to sofd  (low rider. )

Whatever description of the result in the sense of denial or confirmation

will than do..

Dear Nandric, Kennyc wrote this: "I believe that getting the stylus angle to the groove correct is paramount to good sound, but inconsistencies in manufacturing stylus to cantilever and cantilever to body(?) can cause subpar alignment.  So I'm going to use WAM Engineering to calculate via microscope the optimal angle to set my cartridges in order to get the stylus to align accurately with the groove."

I too have no idea what WAM stands for, so I just quoted the acronym.  Seems to me the company, WAM Engineering, would have to make the measurements described in kenny's post at his house, in his system.

Dear @nandric  : With all respect. For me this audio analog forum main target could be that any audiophile with any knowledge level can  learn what to do to improve the listen experiences.

Maybe I'm so stupid but I don't know how can help any one to improve its day by day listen experiences to answer your thread question:

" 

 it is

the groove which determine cantilevet/stylus position .? "

You already answered your self in the OP: silly question. Who cares? curiosity? or really silly question? . You said it not me.

Btw, 37 of 58 posts in the thread came from you. No I don't need you give me any answer to my post. Appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

Yes Raul this thread is about me. I am damper. tension wire , cantilever and

stylus. All 4 variables work togther as myself.  There are limtless ways  to

use ''straw man'' strategy. My I remind  you abot you past? When you

bought , say, 25 cartridges and posted to Axel Schurjolz for ''refreshnemt''

without even listen to them first?  I have never seen any post of you in

wjich parts of your beloved carts are even mentioned . My quess is that

you have no idea how an MC cart looks inside. But you do often mention

LEVELS OF knowledge in Kantian  sense . Aka that you own this quality or

capability  A PRIORI. Delevered by Raul tor Raul. 

You must have at least one cart with ''deviant cantilever'' in your collection

as I do.  People start with some assertion believen it to be true and act in accordingly  with their assertion. My was that any deviation  from straight

meant defective cantikever. But I never tested tthis assertion but posted them

direct to Axel  Schurholz NOT FOR REFRESHMENT  but to get ''my cantileevr '' straight. 

You could check my new EGO by putting any of your cart with deviant cantiever

to test and THAN either DENY  OR CONFIRM my experiment.

BTW there can be only one PRIMA DONNA in our forum. You was but

at present we have one other. The fake New Zeelander. Whatever the

wine there he has, in your own terminoly, much HIHGER LEVEL OF

KNOWLEDGE REGARDING OUR hobby.. However he OBVIOUSLY

DOES NOT HAVE ANY CART WITH DEVIANT CANTILEVER SO NOT

IN THE POSITION TO DENY OR CONFIRM Nandric ''THEORY''.