What does it take to be a die hard Beatles fan?


I am the first to admit that I am a Beatles fan. And might even say that I am die hard. A recent film and recent album has me questioning the latter.

Peter Jackson's film "Get Back" and the 2022 "de-mixed" release of "Revolver" were both somewhat over the top for even a long time Beatles fan.

I had difficulty getting through both the film and the album.

Yes, it was pretty cool to get an inside look at the prep for the famous rooftop concert. But it became tedious to listen to all the "bla bla" in the studio and the endless fiddling of non Beatles songs.

Not to mention all that time "practicing" in the studio to come up with 3 or 4 songs.

And it was cool to hear the de-mixed versions of Revolver material, but 63 tracks with much relatively meaningless stuff took me 2 days to get through. 

I certainly can appreciate the attraction to the behind the scenes things.

But neither the film or the album gave me much insight into who these guys are were/are.

The film was especially disappointing.

 

 

mglik

@edcyn 

So, you were thrown out of a cult -- maybe not such a bad thing, in the long run!  

Musical taste is a funny thing. For example, I've read numerous reviews on Amazon by folks who "love" Clapton. They disparage Cream, Blues Breakers and Derek & Dominos while loudly proclaiming "Lay Down Sally" and "Wonderful Tonight" to be EC's best work. Apparently they don't enjoy his guitar playing very much, given their rejection of those recordings that feature him at his best in this regard. What can we deduce, then -- that they like him mostly as a vocalist ? I do not comprehend but boy, are they passionate! 

 

 

Somehow this got on the most tiresome of tiresome things: Eric Clapton.

I get it.
“There but for the grace of God go I.”

I too could have been a Baby Boomer.
I too could have been brainwashed by the Baby Boomer Music Media Industrial Complex, that festering, fetid ideation and myth-making that brainwashed people into thinking Clapton was an exceptional guitar player.
He wasn’t. He was a bit above average, no better, no less.

Spare me your Jann Wenner regurgitations, i.e. “he brought the blues to the masses,” “he was a sincere, serious student of the blues” (a hilarious thing to say about learning a I-IV-V chord progression and peddling stock minor pentatonic licks - a person is a ‘student’ of such for a month after they begin learning to play guitar, and that’s all folks…it’s like saying a guy who still mans the fry station at McDonalds after 25 years is a ‘serious student of the fry station.’), or “Eddie Van Halen said, ‘(blank),’” or “(so-and-so) once said, ‘(blank),” or, for the love of Christ, spare me, “have you ever heard Riding With the King?” (sweet bastard…puke).

That’s cute and all that Rolling Stone told you he was #2 all-time (patently preposterous) after they deified him for 50 years prior, but he ain’t.

I’ve never been good at self-promotion.
If I had any sense, I would just photograph a spray painted message on a wall that said “TYLER MUNNS IS GOD.” Just get that puppy well-circulated, and I’d be in business.

Clearly people believe anything they read.
An observably bad, observably incompetent person with no credentials or qualifications of any kind, no credibly whatsoever when speaking on a particular matter, can go on TV and address the matter in question thusly:
“I’m the best, the smartest, I’m tremendous, I’m YuGe, no one knows more about (blank) than me, no one is better at (blank) than me…” and people just…believe the words.

I might have to stop by the hardware store tomorrow and pick up some spray paint…


 

@stuartk I share your assessment of “Sgt. Pepper.”  
The White Album, an album that contains compositions like, “Martha My Dear,” “Blackbird,” “Happiness is a Warm Gun,” “Julia,” “Dear Prudence,” “Cry Baby Cry,” “While My Guitar Gently Weeps,” “Sexy Sadie,” “I Will,” “Mother Nature’s Son,” and emerged from the same sessions that produced, “Hey Jude” clearly constitute the Beatles at peak-level musical composition.  
That grouping of compositions (the compositions stand on their own, free of the showy, ‘look at all the crazy studio stuff we can do!’ adornments of ‘66-‘67, which are amazing in their own right) shows far greater consistency and depth in its plethora of harmonically and structurally sophisticated compositions (but still immediately accessible and immediately satisfying to the laymen - not an easy thing to accomplish) than previous or subsequent LPs.  
No other Beatles album had a dozen songs at that level, before or after.

You’re incorrect on the song, “Something,” by the way.

George Harrison played that guitar solo.

@tylermunns 

OK. My mistake. I was sure I'd read an interview with Harrison many years ago in which he said EC played it but evidently I must have imagined it!  

I agree with your assessment of the White Album.