Can a system sound too Holographic?


Hi friends :)

So I got a question for those interested. For me, having a 2 channel system with a Holographic soundstage is very desirable.

I bring this up because I had lent some Centerstage 2 footers ( isolation devices) to a friend to try out. To make a long story short, he likes what they are doing under his Lumin T3, however he mentioned that it might be "Too Holographic". I don't know about you guys and gals, but that wouldn't really be a problem for me. Your thoughts or experiences please. Anyone experience a soundstage that was too Holographic?

aniwolfe

Very interesting distinction i never even thought about...

Thanks for putting it ghdprentice...

"Wall of sound" is for me the definition of hell...

Holography is heaven... 🤓

The main difference is the decibels level and in one case silence and relaxing sound at normal ; in the other case body rape loudness and agression with premature tinnitus and deafness... For sure i put it in an extreme way but....

Rock concert are not designed acoustically  as small music concert hall ...

Did i understand well ?

The concept of "wall of sound" was created by Phil Spector...

It sold a lot of tickets and impairment hearing aids 30 years later......😁😊

 

But true holography may engulf the listener in sound too with sound sources near him or behind the speakers or around the listener... It is recording dependant... But not with intense dynamic and over the board bass pressure rushing to the listener from the speakers in front of him...

But true holography in a small room is very difficult to create...With headphone it is very difficult too because no crosstalk and there is not acoustical control of the shell in most headphones..

 

One of the most incredible system I have ever heard was a Wilson Bamm or Wham or something like that / Rowland. The system was set up perfectly. Images were precise and sounded spherical suspended in the sound stage… one 12’ forward 3’ above the floor at 10 o’clock, another 5’ above the floor and 6’ at 2 o’clock… like that. It was the most incredible experience I ever had. I came away just blown away, saying… “That is the most incredible thing I have ever heard… I do not want that… but that is incredible.

 

So, yes.

 

Some folks want to be engulfed in sound… enfolded, or have a wall wash over them. Holographic imaging does not do that to them. So, yes again. You’ll see some dynamic speakers system six feet high with tons of midrange and woofers. Typically those are designed for more of a wall of sound and less for holographic sound.

Have you ever heard a properly set up mbl system?

 

Having been there and heard that I can assure you the answer to the OP question is a resounding no. Few systems out there otherwise can even come close in regards to the 3D holographic soundstage that a good mbl setup in a proper room  can deliver.   We are talking a totally different league from most anything else.   Even with mbl it can only happen if the room allows it. 

Too holographic takes too much attention from my flowing into the music. It takes too much of my intellect attention to be able to flow freely into the music. I listen to music to relax and to sort of float into it, not to analyze it. I used to analyze the crap out of it while upgrading my system, but I no longer enjoy that part of it now that the system no longer needs to be analyzed to please me. This is a good thing.

I dont understand why for someone  holographical is analytical at all...

It is not my experience...

On the opposite your are like there with the music, and any need for concentration stop, it is so relaxing, because there is no need for any effort to hear any instrument localized and in his own volume of space; i dont undertand equating it with analytical...

Anyway holography is not the results of the design of the amplifier and speakers alone but essentially of their right acoustical integration in a room... And no recording is the same,... Jazz trio does not sound and is not recoreded as religious chorus of 16 century in a big church... Here in chorus music nothing is more relaxing and less analytical than human voices perfectly distributed in all my room...

Holography is highly recording dependant for the way the music is recreated in the room.., No holography means all recording sound way more the same in a FIXED oncde for all soundstage... In holography the soundstage dimensions and form  from my music albums differ and vary  a lot...