Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

@amir_asr 

The beef some of you have with me is misplaced.  What you see is not me, it is me and literally tens of thousands of your fellow audiophiles working together to bring more transparency to audio gear.

No, you are the one doing the measuring and interpreting the data.  Other followers chime in on occasion with their own "measurements"  that would receive an F in high school science.  Other followers drone on in posts full of random technical jargon claiming vast knowledge and experience.  And there is the attack dog crowd ready to pounce with insults and slander toward anyone with differing experience or knowledge.  The tens of thousands referenced are a cult that you, Amir, cultivate and allow to fester.

Allowing the benefit of doubt that you, Amir, have only pure intentions does not excuse the environment you, Amir, created.  ASR could be a much better place for all without the arrogance, condescension, and hostile environment.  You, Amir, are responsible to make changes.

There are an awful lot of assertions of poor measuring process in this thread.  Perhaps an example or two with explanations would be useful?  It's always better to debate specifics rather than make broad, unsubstantiated claims.

I don't know who amir is. I guess that means he has not changed my mind about anything.

The audio world is so confusing and frustrating that it makes us mad. Both ways mad. What’s that buzzing in my ears? It’s obviously all amir’s fault. There I feel better now. Now get off my lawn!

As i already said, Objectivist measurements are good for the industry and for the consumer to know, and subjectivist reviews very good and revelatory to analyse...

Some in the two group of people quarrel around the same GEAR component, the measurements against subjective listening or subjective listenings against measurements...They all focus on the subjective OR objectively measured properties deemed FOR THEM the more important of THE GEAR components ...

BUT Room acoustic and psycho-acoustic disposition or headphone shell acoustic tell the story to be HEARD at the end ....

Because no component at any price can do his best in bad acoustic conditions... Period... No speakers can beat his room...The room acoustic constraint and determine the gear potential and optimal S.Q. at the end ... Not the price tag and Brand name, nor the electrical measurements alone...

Then it is not the component choice that matter the most AT THE END but their electrical, acoustical and mechanical embeddings, most of the times which are more powerful in impact than any upgrades ...

Quarrel reflect futile ignorance and focus on gear choice excluding acoustic ...it is more important the room than the speakers ... Why ? Because we pick the speakers for the specific room needs we already have anyway ...Most of us cannot invest 100,000 bucks in a room acoustically designed for the specfic speakers we want...Then acoustic knowledge matter most for us than dac, amplifier and speakers brand name choice separately or put together...

Saying the opposite is marketing by measurements or by subjective listenings...In the two case it is a marketing analysis official or unofficial publicity...

Acoustic is science and art, not marketing analysis, be it objectivist or subjectivist...

Quarrel is meaningless...

 

«Quarrel make fools » -- Groucho Marx 🤓