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My best for Schumann 4 th

Incredible haunting surreal out of this world Furtwangler whose interpretation had never even be rivaled save by Klemperer mastery second, but really only second... Furtwangler here surpass all maestros and taught a lesson ...Perhaps the greatest musical recording among all his recordings, if not, i dont even know which one is over this one....

i stop listening anything after these two, which give their musical direction the power to reveal Schumann obsessiveness near madness and his way to control it with music healing power over tempest...

is it music? It is more a desesperate victorious act to keep control over oneself by music writing ... It is the way Furt, directed it... A glimpse of hope amidst terrors and in spite of it , as a boat lost on sea between sunrising and sun down and directed as such by these two maestros... Sometimes a whirlwind capture us desesperate and is replaced by a false calm and the sun illuminate the darkness to be replaced by fate returning in the turmoil again and again ...

The suggestive power of this music put Schumann beside Beethoven with his evocative power and Furtwangler and Klemperer knows it , it is not another musical piece, but the radiography of a soul...

Sometimes music is more than just music... Here it is the case...

it is not a leisure nor a mere pleasure more a deep vision, crisis, meditation, a trance ...

Any other maestro direct it only as a beautiful musical piece... It is not...It is a mystery dancing in some living soul and here for us to see not just listen ...

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If the world spiritual had a meaning in music it is now...

 

Furtwangler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyEiplksn0

 

Klemperer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkU8ULGs4aE

 

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For those who like pianism...

The son of a god and himself a god of piano...

A top Scriabinian too...

And his Liszt is played by supreme expressiveness with the melody coming from vertical musical time...Then pulsating and not merely flowing...

Expressiveness is not about beauty but about truth to the emotion , it is moving before being felt beautiful, the indication in the pianism that expressiveness dominate is the pulsation over and guiding the melodic line... Only very great pianists can do it without fails... They often trade off for horizontal plastic beauty...

I will not give examples at the risk to hurt someone feelings...But listen carefully how some notes oscillate powerfully aimed at your heart like a rifle bullet... This is expression, it is not so much the melody that moves us but the pulsating  heart singing it ( the pianist)...

Stanislav Neuhaus (1927-1980), piano

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9l-a0CFV2M&list=PL_FxhjClAeZfWH8k76xiIfO-pb6VjurVy

 

I've no doubt mentioned this sometime in the distant past on this site, but just in case I gotta say that Andre Watts is my favorite Liszt interpreter. His Columbia Masterworks LP hasn't got the greatest sound but his un-mannered, just-tell-us-the-story virtuosity never fails to catch me up in the narrative. When I daydream about playing Liszt (a composer whose works are perhaps just north of this would-be pianist's)  it's his versions that emerge from my fingers. Saw him once in concert, too.

I am not much of a Liszt-o-philiac, as I think there is more style than substance there. Some of the Etudes are nice.  Claudio Arrau and Jorge Bolet are enough for me, and Brendel in the Sonata 

I never was nor i am a Liszt-o-philliac...

I never love Liszt at all...

I did not know why...

Till i listen pianists able to reveal it FOR ME...The first was Bolet...

Like Scriabin Liszt is not for everybody, he wrote music to be listen in intimate sacred moments ...These two are revelations or acquired taste...For me they were at the same time revelations and acquired taste because of Sofronitsky and E. Ny. who played them in a way no other could...

The music of Liszt and Scriabin on piano has one point in common, it is never first merely written to be pleasant and beautiful music, most of the times it is a moving intensely disturbing music written to reveal soul depth ... It is the reason why it is hard to play the right way by almost every pianists... To give an extreme example: LSD is not bread nor a cake...

Bolet and Arrau are tremendous pianist anybody can live with I discovered Liszt with Bolet perfect playing, it reveal poetry to me unique to Liszt ...But this dont nullify Neuhaus choices in Liszt or others who play it in a more intense way... ...

Music is a journey where the travellers meet but never goes together toward the next stay...

My favorite works of Liszt is not on piano, it is the Christus...With Bach, Haendel Messiah, Bruckner great mass, a work of supreme mastery away from the promethean Liszt ...

And in music thread it is better to speak about less known interpreters and less generally appreciated composers..

My favorite composer is Bach...

 

I am not much of a Liszt-o-philiac, as I think there is more style than substance there. Some of the Etudes are nice. Claudio Arrau and Jorge Bolet are enough for me, and Brendel in the Sonata