Why is solid state more popular when tubes are better?

@phusis I can't speak for other class D amps although I've heard a few that are really quite good. Class D amps vary in sound more than from the worst to best tube amps. Some really can't be taken seriously. Some are really boring. And some are amazing. 

The amp we designed worked out to have a distortion signature that looks for all the world like a tube amp when you have it on the bench. The distortion of any amplifier is its 'sonic signature'. What so many people don't realize is how audible distortion really is since our ears assign tonality to all harmonics (that is after all how musical instruments sound unique too...). So if you have an amp that has a distortion signature that looks like that of another amp, it will sound like that other amp too.

We were lucky in that the non-linearities that exist in our design tend to generate lower ordered harmonics. So very similar to a tube amp in this regard. Of course we have a lot lower distortion so the amp is more transparent.

I sincerely doubt that we are the only ones to be able to do this!! So tube amps are on borrowed time.

@atmasphere , do you have distortion measurements that you can share with us comparing your tube and class-D amplifiers?

Hilde45 do you suffer from a mental problem with my presence here?

Nope. I asked you a simple question. You said many times that no one needed more than $500 in a system to have great sound.

Now you’re saying something different.

I’m asking you what’s changed.

I was hoping you’d yes or no and then discuss why.

Raising the issue of "mental problems" is interesting though. Funny that you went there.

2 minutes of searching:

"It is the reverse... Did you see him speaking about the three embeddings control? and the three dimensions of small room acoustic?
my system value is 500 bucks by the way... Try to imitate me and reach the same S.Q. if you can..."

"I buy nothing nor bought anything, save peanuts costs materials or devices i modified myself...I bought my basic 500 bucks audio system the rest are my experiments with homemade solutions and elementary science..."

"My system worth is 500 bucks and i smile all day long listening music and the upgrade is possible but make me laugh as useless for the price i must paid to do it really which will be over 10,000 bucks in my evaluation"

"I am not afraid to compare my S.Q. to ANYONE and even if i lost it will be others who will be amazed by what a 500 bucks system rightfully embed can do near their own... The more it will be high-end the more i will laugh"

"Because when we reach a certain sound quality level, we know what will be the cost of a real beneficial upgrade, only at this time we can know it... mine will be from my 500 bucks system going to a minimal 10,000 to 15000 bucks system... why i dont want to do it? not only because i dont have the money but i dont need it really... Pianio sound fill already my room, my system/speakers beat already my 8 headphones... there is always better but i am very pleased... My soundscape is the best i ever listen to anyway..."

"Saying that higher cost can afford truly better S.Q. is common place fact and trivial.... What is less trivial and less common place is knowing how much acoustic can optimize and contribute to the S.Q. of ANY system ....My system value is under 500 bucks all in all..."

"I live very well with my under 500 bucks system acoustically well controlled...i smile if i listen anything better...You know why?"

You only post to criticize me ...It seems to me guess why ?

You question are to put an imagined contradiction in my posts..

You patronized me about my long posts whitout END..Because the same advice for 3 years is PATRONIZING someone it is no more a friendly advice...You go on even after i apologize.. And the last time i naively apologize and thank you ... Guess what you did : You s...t on me and my thread next minute..i will not apologize and thank you in the future ANYMORE if you did not change your way toward me..

What do you think i thought about your ACCUSATION of contradiction ? it was not an innocent and good faith question at all..Do you think i am an idiot ?

Anyway it is ridiculous to assemble my quotes..

I will resume them by FACTS i stated in your selection and out of it for the last 3 years... :

-- First i am completely satisfied and in heaven with my 600 bucks system for reasons i will not explain here anew ( the main reason is minimal satisfaction treshold is reached thanks to my optimization and diminushing returns)

-- Second as audiophile i dream, i know what i do, and any system at any price can be improved and upgrade... It is not necessary even to explain why...It is RIDICULOUS to think that a 600 bucks system cannot be upgraded... The urge for upgrade is LOST... The upgrade exist ... I compute his cost...

--- Third i already computed the price of my ultimate upgrade and the only one i will do; 15,000 bucks..

Then assembling out of context my posts to search for a supposed contradiction says more about you than about me...

i spoke of mental health because ALL your last posts were of bad faith...No discussion... criticizing my number of words, and two post about my alleged contradiction...After three years of patronizing about my number of words.. ☺😊

In contrast with your behaviour i participated in your new thread and thank you for the idea... Perhaps it will inspire you to be FRIENDLY...

«When a cake  is no more necessary for an hungry man he  can go on dreaming about it in another way than just a meal » -- Groucho Marx 🤓

hilde45

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07-06-2023 at 05:47pm

Hilde45 do you suffer from a mental problem with my presence here?

Nope. I asked you a simple question. You said many times that no one needed more than $500 in a system to have great sound.

Now you’re saying something different.

I’m asking you what’s changed.

I was hoping you’d yes or no and then discuss why.

Raising the issue of "mental problems" is interesting though. Funny that you went there.

2 minutes of searching:

"It is the reverse... Did you see him speaking about the three embeddings control? and the three dimensions of small room acoustic?
my system value is 500 bucks by the way... Try to imitate me and reach the same S.Q. if you can..."

"I buy nothing nor bought anything, save peanuts costs materials or devices i modified myself...I bought my basic 500 bucks audio system the rest are my experiments with homemade solutions and elementary science..."

"My system worth is 500 bucks and i smile all day long listening music and the upgrade is possible but make me laugh as useless for the price i must paid to do it really which will be over 10,000 bucks in my evaluation"

"I am not afraid to compare my S.Q. to ANYONE and even if i lost it will be others who will be amazed by what a 500 bucks system rightfully embed can do near their own... The more it will be high-end the more i will laugh"

"Because when we reach a certain sound quality level, we know what will be the cost of a real beneficial upgrade, only at this time we can know it... mine will be from my 500 bucks system going to a minimal 10,000 to 15000 bucks system... why i dont want to do it? not only because i dont have the money but i dont need it really... Pianio sound fill already my room, my system/speakers beat already my 8 headphones... there is always better but i am very pleased... My soundscape is the best i ever listen to anyway..."

"Saying that higher cost can afford truly better S.Q. is common place fact and trivial.... What is less trivial and less common place is knowing how much acoustic can optimize and contribute to the S.Q. of ANY system ....My system value is under 500 bucks all in all..."

"I live very well with my under 500 bucks system acoustically well controlled...i smile if i listen anything better...You know why?"

This is my all time favorite cartoon about the hobby we share.  Substitute Tubes for Vinyl and it still works. 🤣