Why is solid state more popular when tubes are better?


Yes tubes are more involved and require periodic maintenance. Hybrid tube components need not apply, these are really solid state.

Tubes are better for multiple reasons and yet the world and the trade prefers solid state. Those rare audio shops that are geared toward stereo listening and serious connoisseurs tend to Focus more on tubes.  Those in business who like to improve volumes tend to offer solid state.  All the YouTube channels looking to improve their business tend to be solid state.  Maybe because tubes require much more expertise to sell, and there's lesser and lesser to go around. Solid state is more of a fast food commodity.

Tubes are difficult for businesses due to all the maintenance and complexity so you see it less often. Much much easier to sell hybrids or solid state.

 

 

emergingsoul

Hilde45 do you suffer from a mental problem with my presence here?

 

First i am satisfied with my audio system as it is...I said it multiple times...

Second improving when we know what we do is ALWAYS Possible...

Third i even indicated many times how i could improve my actual completely satisfying IMPERFECT system , by buying Dr. Choueri dac, Atmasphere class D amp or Berning Zotl i dont know now for sure, and i will keep my headphone...

Total cost of ugrading to beat my completely satisfying system ( 600 bucks) FOR ME NOW with a REAL upgrade because i know what i am doing and why : 15, 000 bucks... I dont know the price of Atmasphere class D amplification but i trust him as i trust Berning for quality design and for now i dont know what will be better for me ...

 

Conclusion : Dont trail me to cure your frustration about my long posts or alleged contradictions or for the simple reason you want to be at the center and i throw shade on you ... Go consult a psychologist treating obsession.. I cannot help you... I never trail people with this kind of obsessive behaviour ... I like to discuss but with you it is impossible...you never DISCUSSED my points... you are too obsessed it seems to be clear thinking..

You are supposed to be a philosopher , where are your philosophical points contradicting anything i said in acoustic , in musical interpretation or in any general matter ?

NOWHERE...

Anybody can found your annoying posts about me VOID of any content but only there to criticize my posts words count ( for almost three years now with the same observation and by the way as i said from the begining you are right my posts are too long ) or my alleged contradictions now ...

In a word, save for an idiot, or a nevrotic dude looking for my alleged contradictions, the fact that we can live happy with speakers in a dedicated room at low cost dont mean that UPGRADING SOUND QUALITY IS IMPOSSIBLE ...

Do you catch the "nuance" ?

The fact that acoustic installation beat most upgrade dont mean that Atmasphere amplification will not upgrade inferior amplification save for a distorted mind ...

it is enough clear ?

But yes because there is a minimal treshold of acoustic experience satisfaction , it is possible to create with 1000 bucks a very good satisfying system...I did it..

is it easy ?

No...

it takes me 2 years full time...

i hope to be clear...

And read all my posts before putting words in my mouth...

By the way to cure hate i recomment studying, it is very efficient... Try it...

 

@mahgister I remember you saying that no one really needed to spend more that $500 on a system if they were paying proper attention to their room.

Now, you say, "It seems and i know that Alas! i did not have the money to buy proper tube amplification ..."

Are you now asserting that spending more that $500 on audio equipment can make the sound better even if the room is made very very good?

@atmasphere wrote:

There are now class D amplifiers that can deliver all the musicality that used to be exclusively the domain of tube amplifiers.

Does this apply mostly to the variants you’ve developed, or as well a more general direction with other, selective ranges of class D amplifiers?

@phusis I can't speak for other class D amps although I've heard a few that are really quite good. Class D amps vary in sound more than from the worst to best tube amps. Some really can't be taken seriously. Some are really boring. And some are amazing. 

The amp we designed worked out to have a distortion signature that looks for all the world like a tube amp when you have it on the bench. The distortion of any amplifier is its 'sonic signature'. What so many people don't realize is how audible distortion really is since our ears assign tonality to all harmonics (that is after all how musical instruments sound unique too...). So if you have an amp that has a distortion signature that looks like that of another amp, it will sound like that other amp too.

We were lucky in that the non-linearities that exist in our design tend to generate lower ordered harmonics. So very similar to a tube amp in this regard. Of course we have a lot lower distortion so the amp is more transparent.

I sincerely doubt that we are the only ones to be able to do this!! So tube amps are on borrowed time.

@atmasphere , do you have distortion measurements that you can share with us comparing your tube and class-D amplifiers?

Hilde45 do you suffer from a mental problem with my presence here?

Nope. I asked you a simple question. You said many times that no one needed more than $500 in a system to have great sound.

Now you’re saying something different.

I’m asking you what’s changed.

I was hoping you’d yes or no and then discuss why.

Raising the issue of "mental problems" is interesting though. Funny that you went there.

2 minutes of searching:

"It is the reverse... Did you see him speaking about the three embeddings control? and the three dimensions of small room acoustic?
my system value is 500 bucks by the way... Try to imitate me and reach the same S.Q. if you can..."

"I buy nothing nor bought anything, save peanuts costs materials or devices i modified myself...I bought my basic 500 bucks audio system the rest are my experiments with homemade solutions and elementary science..."

"My system worth is 500 bucks and i smile all day long listening music and the upgrade is possible but make me laugh as useless for the price i must paid to do it really which will be over 10,000 bucks in my evaluation"

"I am not afraid to compare my S.Q. to ANYONE and even if i lost it will be others who will be amazed by what a 500 bucks system rightfully embed can do near their own... The more it will be high-end the more i will laugh"

"Because when we reach a certain sound quality level, we know what will be the cost of a real beneficial upgrade, only at this time we can know it... mine will be from my 500 bucks system going to a minimal 10,000 to 15000 bucks system... why i dont want to do it? not only because i dont have the money but i dont need it really... Pianio sound fill already my room, my system/speakers beat already my 8 headphones... there is always better but i am very pleased... My soundscape is the best i ever listen to anyway..."

"Saying that higher cost can afford truly better S.Q. is common place fact and trivial.... What is less trivial and less common place is knowing how much acoustic can optimize and contribute to the S.Q. of ANY system ....My system value is under 500 bucks all in all..."

"I live very well with my under 500 bucks system acoustically well controlled...i smile if i listen anything better...You know why?"