Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

It doesn’t make sense to me that someone who bases everything on numbers and metrics would have any need to censure others armed mainly with words.

Unless  there is bad behavior involved. That needs to be addressed in all cases, though increasingly these days it is not.

Forum rules should cover what constitutes bad behavior. If not that is an omission and should be fixed.

In contrast, garage show operations like yours will make a crude gated measurement or two and call it the day.  

Great, then you shouldn't avoid at all costs a controlled listening text vs your speakers at PAF 2024 correct?

Two conflicting statements in one single paragraph: keep the subjectivity in audio, but then intervene so that very subjectivity (I.e anecdotes) does not “rule the world”. Hmmm….

Subjectivity can 100% rule the audio world!  Have every manufacturer with claims of audio superiority provide controlled listening tests where only the ear is involved and I will retire from what I am doing and get more gardening done.

What you want is different: you want the self-serving views of a designer be the arbiter of what is right and good instead of relying on the ears of a few of your fellow audiophiles in a controlled test.  I just can't join you in that nor can huge swath of the audiophile community.

We want unbiased results and data.  Why is this so hard to understand?

It’s not so much about what you do in your site, which has clearly value, but it’s your (and your followers’) campaign in all audio forums to shut down every subjective discussion (such a hobbyist simply sharing their listening impressions with each other, on anything audio related).

Those shut down requests have been repeated made regarding my posts here. I am not seeing you react negatively towards those.

But yes, there are some people who are extremist in both camp. As I have explained and show, @soundfield is one of them. They give our cause a bad new and I am sure the same is true of some in your camp.

We need to get beyond that and judge the here and now. I am fielding a ton of hostility from a number of posters in this thread and others like it. Which I can take as you can well see. But you can’t complain in this context why some objectivists do this and that.  Both camps need to stick to what they can demonstrate as proof and value add as opposed to angry responses.

Great, then you shouldn't avoid at all costs a controlled listening text vs your speakers at PAF 2024 correct?

No, it is not "great." I am not the one that has to work to demonstrate the value of what you are selling.  That is your job.

To wit, you haven't even post a measurement of the speakers you sell.  Some cost as high as $15,000 yet all we have is a picture of them.  Post some measurements as starters.  Then write an article on any formal listening tests you have performed.  Once we have these, then maybe we care to see what you have to offer.  Until then, what you are or are not selling is not remotely important to me.