Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.

chayro06-24-2023 12:04pm

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amir_asr Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 777 posts 07-12-2023 at 05:50pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete @kevn @amir_asr Amir, what of the fact that all along, you have only been measuring just the electrical half of electromagnetism. Can you explain the loss of logic in basing your entire belief system on that? Huh? What do you call speaker and headphone testing? Devoid of magnetism? How do they make sound then (putting aside electrostatics and such). Power supplies in audio gear use transformers so their magnetic properties are also encapsulated in the overall performance of a device. The ending of that sentence is key: don't try to get ahead of the train. As an audiophile, your only concern should be what comes out of your audio gear. Not how some physical theory acts on the design of said equipment. You don't listen to that phenomenon.
amir_asr Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 777 posts 07-12-2023 at 05:55pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete This is cargo cult: This is not:
mahgister Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 13,801 posts 07-12-2023 at 05:56pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete The basis of a debate is good faith,,, Good faith means you are able to repeat the opposite side arguments as they stated it...No ad hominem attacks and no caricature... Here a caricature with an appeal to an affective reaction instead of a rational thinking... Bottom like, get speakers that are well designed, do some EQ for low frequencies where acoustic products have little prayer of fixing issues there, put standard furnishing if this is an everyday room, and start enjoying your music. What about Helmholtz resonators for taming the bass ? What is a well designed speakers ? Is Tannoy dual concentric bad design ? They sound way less good in my living room than my Mission Cyrus in a better acoustic environment.. Guess why ? Do NOT listen to people claiming expertise based on stuff they have read online. Do you know that every scholars research is available on the internet ? Even doctorate thesis in acoustic ? is this observation include ASR or just audiogon ? And certainly don’t let them shame you into throwing blankets on the wall or else your system sounds like "crap." They don’t know what they are saying. You are right here... I will only add, dont let them shame you because you use your ears not only measures and trust your ears to experiment and pick you gear... Because those techno babble measuring zealots they dont know that a set of measures describe SOME ASPECTS ONLY OF the design and cannot alone predict "musical qualities" ...As demonstrated Amir , they dont even know what hearing theory science is and why a debate exist there and what is at stake.. And for those who use technology to DEBUNK not to design , so useful it can be, the adjective "musical quality" which can made sense for a craftmanship designer of amplifier using psycho-acoustic concepts about distortion and the non linear working of the ears, this adjective suddenly is a word devoid of simple numbers meanings on their limited set of dials..Guess why ?
nonoise Details Discussions Posts This discussion 11,226 posts 07-12-2023 at 06:01pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete This is cargo cult, Now he's just trolling. All the best, Nonoise
amir_asr Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 777 posts 07-12-2023 at 06:16pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete What is a well designed speakers ? Is Tannoy dual concentric bad design ? Maybe, maybe not. You can't go by a brand name. You must measure it as a first step. I reviewed the Tannoy Revolution XT 6. You pay $1,200 and get this response: Fortunately subjectively is not as bad as it seems (due to bandwidth of our auditory filters). Still, there is no reason to put up with such a response (and distortion) when there are plenty of superior choices at those price points. This was my conclusion: Conclusions The Tannoy Revolution XT 6 brings distinct looks to a crowded market which I liked. Objectively though, the coaxial design brought with it a choppy and uneven frequency response which research and my experience shows to not be good. Fortunately the audible effect is not severe. What is severe is level of measured distortion. This distortion in my opinion is audible and serves to produce a distorted sound. Fortunately careful EQ seems to deal with them but then wind up with so many patches to get the speaker to sound right. The designer should have done this, not us. So overall, I can't recommend the Tannoy XT 6. Bottom line, don't run with concepts such as coaxial. Insist on measurements to show efficacy.