Will China become the poor man’s dealer for high end audio?

It already has, with mixed results. Chinese online dealers offer McIntosh MC275 clones for less than a third of the cost of the original. Many people love the sound and at a price much easier to afford. Then there are the number of $1k tube integrated amps built in the Line Magnetic facility. These have been met with mixed results with lots of people moving on from them. Same with the myriad of other amplifier clones.

Ali Express sells pretty much any type of speaker clone along with rack, stands and cable clones at fractional pricing.

And of course the DACs being built are extremely popular.

Like it or not it is here to stay and growing.

One thing to remember, made in China but designed by companies with solid histories and engineering capital is far different than turn-key China made products.

Serjio post is right...

"I was bitten by Mahgister" - now I want to tell the truths

Soix advice is right too... Better to keep this in the audio field... History is not taught and ignorance is appauling...

Let’s just stick to audio and do that. To me, chapai22 crossed the line, which is why I responded. I have absolutely no idea what you’re saying or what you mean and honestly I don’t care. I’d just like this to get back to audio pure and simple, which is what this site is all about.

But i SPOKE CLEARLY about audio simple thing against the expressed prejudices from some people expressing wrong and false statements by ignorance... No need to understand Shakespeare to be able to read about Needham 7 volumes and an austrailian study demonstrating chinese engineering creative and abilities which anyway existed in the past , save for those ignorant of history...

My Hidizs Ap 80 pro, is not high end, but a piece of very good design which punch high for his price...It is chineese... It is not less bad than american products in the same window of price at all... Any children able to read english can understand my point..

One thing to remember, made in China but designed by companies with solid histories and engineering capital is far different than turn-key China made products.

And as i also said, my German 1978 AKG K340 headphone is a top product even today and no pricier Hifiman chinese headphone beat it save perhaps the two more costlier models and even this i dont believe it...

Is it hard to understand ?

But saying that chinese with 40 million pianists will stay unable to be creative as they were for 2 millenias is only an ignorant prejudice..

Chinese history aside, I think that we can agree that most manufacturers will purchase parts and assemble components based upon price. The better companies will carefully verify that all is per spec and that the end product is of high quality. Audio equipment is not the tip of the technological spear. As long as consumers have money to spend, someone, somewhere will figure out how to relieve you of your money. There will always be a value segment of consumer electronics. Currently, the manufacturing base for such products is diversifying and in the future countries like Vietnam, India and others will assemble these value component. China, with increasing labor costs and intrusive government control, is no longer the up and coming manufacturing hub of the world. Times are changing.

I agree with this...

WOW! Just check this thread and the responses are a mixture of ones relating to the original question and political statements. There’s no denying what China is and their atrocities towards their own people but putting aside all that they still are part of the global economy and their role in High End audio is slowly getting bigger.