Learning about crossovers helped convert me from atheist to a believer in God


Let’s see if this one survives.    

I have been an atheist for 50 years.  Recently I became a believer.  One factor that helped tip the scales is the “fine tuned universe” argument - the idea that the physics constants, e.g. the mass of an electron, are so finely “selected” that if they weren’t very close to what they are, life wouldn’t exist.  This is an argument for a creator.  The best counter argument seems to be that there are an infinite number of universes and we got lucky.  

When I got into audio, and started learning about crossovers, I was ASTOUNDED at how well the pieces fit together.  Octaves are exact doubles of frequency.  3dB describes so many seemingly unrelated phenomena.  But the one that really got me was the magic of capacitors and inductors.  They share no parts, other than wires sticking out at each end (usually), one acts due to voltage, one acts due to electromagnetism, one resists AC, one resists DC.  And yet, somehow, they are mirror images of each other, using almost exactly the same equations, behaving perfectly orthogonal to each other, even to the extent of how powerfully they perform their function (3dB again).  How is this possible?  Could this have happened due to random chance?  I smell a creator.  

alanhuth

The OP is bringing up faded memories of V.D. posting here about his products (cables I think) being based upon intel he personally received from Jesus Christ.

This was 20 some years ago and I suspect the posts/threads were deleted (think the guy may still be operating).

Otherwise, I have nothing pertinent to add to the OP's post.

 

DeKay

I believe in God, I just don't believe in religion. It's a problem of scalability, and religions just don't scale well. As one person put it, "The farther you get from Jerusalem, the sillier religion becomes." And by the time you reach the stars, religion is downright hysterical. So we have a conundrum, one that is, to my mind, resolved by recognizing the principle of self-organization, that is, the universe self organizes into an order defined by the physical laws of that universe. It is that principle that explains how, in a demonstrably, measurably, entropic universe, we can be here, having this conversation.

Randomness, another thorny problem, is simply order on a scale beyond our comprehension or capability to calculate. Shooting a single pool shot is simple enough to calculate and execute to make it a game. Breaking a rack of 15 balls, for all practical purposes is random in aggregate.  Each interaction between balls, felt, and cushion; the associated coefficients of friction and elasticity, geometry and gravity, can be individually calculated but the resulting transfer function of the whole rapidly becomes impossible due to minor variations - the butterfly effect. 

And so it is with our favorite topic here, acoustics. We all get direct sound, a trnsfer function of the speaker into the listening environment, but the transfer function of the reflected sound is vastly more complex, beginning with early reflections, then secondary, and tertiary reflections before we throw up our hands an call the aggregate sum of all non-direct sound "reverberation" the character of which our brain uses to assign size and subjective quality of the listening environment. My mentor, an acoustical physicist and architect once tried to define the transfer function of a concert hall on paper. After 20+ pages of equations he came to the conclusion that an approximation adequate to fool the ear was possible, but even small variations in parameters could lead to huge unexpected - and audible - variations. In complexity theory, this modeled in part through, among other means, the General Logistics Equation. 

Bsck to the questions of God, and life. It follows from the Principle of sel Organization, that life is an eventuality, given certain preconditions. And sentient life is simply an even more 'random' example of that eventuality. Creating religions in an attempt to explain that  phenomena is to ignore the greater story, and the uniqueness that is, for better or worse, ourselves.

Sorry, frankly you lost me with your weak religion conversion argument. Your logic statement doesn’t hold up well enough to prove one way or the other. Just my perspective. You’re welcome to yours.

Transitions between creationism, spirituality, religion and confessional faith are gradual. Excluding one from the other is a matter of personal opinion. Whatever you call it should be highly personal and in no way used to instruct others about the right way to live. In hippie words, love and peace, brothers. 

To apply the same principle to audio would rid us of many a selfrighteous and opinionated post in these fora. 

You are right for sure ....

But i will rectify your order about the transition:

Spirituality , religions, creationism  and specifc faiths...  Taoism, Buddhism and advaita vedanta, or panthéistic cults  are not creationist, there is no bearded man creating a cosmos ...

The existence of a design does not mean a personified creator...An impersonal spirit is the source , which can manifest in a person as you and me...

 

 

I like to read others opinion and discussing them... As the Op did ...As you did...

Opinionated i am for sure, 😊 but i am able to change my mind when i felt i was wrong... I have two sides...

In my belief and experience all is one, and there exist only a perfect , uncondional , love between the non manifested and the manifested... And all that is you... or me...

 

 My best to you...

 

Transitions between creationism, spirituality, religion and confessional faith are gradual.