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Subwoofer Advice & Therapy :)

Presently I have it narrowed down between three subwoofers - JL Audio E 100, REL T/9x and the Arendal 1723 1S.

Yes, there are tradeoffs in regards to the connection - high vs low. Also a bit of difference with dimensions, subwoofer size and a marginal price difference. My setup  - First Watt F8, Modwright LS100 preamp, Zu DW 6 Supremes, Schitt YGGdrassil + LIM DAC, Modwright 9.0 tube phono stage and a Clearaudio Concept black with the AT Art -9Xi MC. I am leaning towards the Arendal, as it has a 60 day audition period, a visual app for set up and has 13.8" sub vs the 10" on the REL and JL Audio.

The other tradeoffs I know exist are in regards to the position of the sub and the size of my listening room. I only have one front corner location (with some room between the back and side wall).  This is a large room with 12 ft. ceilings thats  approximately 28 ft by 24 ft. In a perfect world I would go the next size up for the sub or go with two but the other trade off is the wife, who would not buy into the size or placement elsewhere. Note I am not up to trading in the wife at this time after 40 plus years :)

I would appreciate your thoughts on these subwoofers with my existing layout and system. Mainly listen to jazz and R&B. Not looking for a booming bass but would like to hear a bit more especially when I listen to some classic rock or Indie. Thanks in advance..........

norust
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hilde45
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I agree with Erik Squires about the difficulty of integration. For me, variable phase was very important to integration. I have Rythmik subs, but perhaps the other subs on your list do this. Here's a photo from the back of the Rythmik for your reference.

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jtcf
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As long as there is  trial period choose one with a phone app.Set up is a breeze.One issue that hopefully won't come up is if the corner you've chosen is a dead spot.In my room two corners are ideal for subs,the other two are bass dead zones.

norust OP
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I am very pleased and also impressed as to the quality and number of responses to my questions and setup.  This is my first post here and I look forward to being an active and helpful participant in the future. 

First thing thats evident is I have more research to do.  Thanks to @audiorusty  for the link and all who have jumped in with their thoughts.  I did have a chuckle at the reference to my negotiating skills from @vonhelmholtz - we know that there is no negotiating with terrorists :)

I will revisit  Rythmik and intend to work towards finding a solution.  Many thanks to all that have contributed. 

ohlala
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I agree that phase and frequency and LF filters can help but are not a complete substitute for sub placement. Your advantage is the latitude to place a bit away from the walls. Get the largest sub you can. I have owned undersized subs; it is not great. I would advise to work fast to get through issues. Sometimes people get lucky but the trial period ends quickly. Good luck.  

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hilde45
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@ohlala is absolutely right. Placement is paramount. But that's where phase helps a lot. Adjustable phase, esp with more than one sub, makes additional positions possible. We all have to work within the constraints of our rooms, furniture, etc. Adjustable phase plus placement gets you closer to optimal integration without having to put things in (possibly) crazy places in the room to deal with modes.

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