The "Very Best Record Cleaning Formulation"


The "Very Best Record Cleaning Formulation"

 

I am providing this formulation for all who are interested in the very best, and can be proven and demonstrated to be the "Very Best". It can easily be made from available ingredients. On the surface, it appears to be very simple. However, it is based on extensive complex chemistry along with precise mathematical calculations and verifiable data.

 

You may use it with absolute confidence and be truly assured that it is beyond doubt the "Very Best". You may use it for your personal needs. Or, archival entities may use it for their purposes with confidence. Or, you may choose to start an enterprise that makes and packages quantities as either a "ready-to-use" or a "Semi-concentrated" version for sale and distribution knowing that nothing better exists. You have my blessings and encouragement with one condition. And, that is, that the pricing represents a "fair margin", and, not an obscene gouging, typical for such products.

 

Initially, I had prepared a presentation that briefly introduced myself, and provided the thought processes, design parameters, and the necessary basics of chemistry, physics, and mathematics to assure you and allow you to be absolutely confident in this formulation. I made a considerable effort to keep it as simple, but, also as thorough enough to achieve this confidence. However, that presentation entailed 5,239 words, typical of such a requirement, however, unacceptable in length by this website forum.

 

I have no option other than to offer the formulation as a 100% parts by weight version suitable to produce 1 Kilogram of the cleaner, and, invite you to question me about any aspect of the formulation.

 

Professionally, I am a Chemist, more specifically a Polyurethane Chemist. I have a Doctorate in Chemistry as well as two other Doctorates and a M.B.A.. I held prominent positions in significant corporations before being encouraged to start our (wife and I) manufacturing facility servicing those I previously worked for. We started, owned, and fully operated this business. We eventually obtained 85+% Market Share in our sector in Medical, Automotive, Sporting Goods, and Footwear areas before retirement.

 

The Audio Industry is extremely technical and many brilliant minds have contributed their talents over the decades in order that we may enjoy music today as we choose. Like many other technical industries, those of lesser minds and values invade the arena with their "magical" inspired revelations and offer their "magical" ingredients and items to all at extremely high prices. They promise that if only we are willing to part with our money - they can provide these items to you that make your audio system sound as if the orchestra, or vocalist, is in your room with you. And, after all, "magical items" must be expensive, otherwise, they would not be "magical".

 

This disturbs me enormously, and, it is for such reasons, I feel compelled to provide realistic and truthful information that conforms to basic Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, and Mathematical Principals in those areas with which I am very knowledgeable and familiar.

 

          "Ultimate Record Cleaner Solution"

 

   Ingredient                                          Amount by Weight (Grams)

 

Distilled Water                                     779.962

 

Ethyl Alcohol                                       220.000

 

Tergitol 15-S-7 (Dow Chemical)            0.038  (Approx. = 2 Drops)

                                                         1,000.000

 

Important and/or Relevant Criteria

 

1.)  Distilled Water ONLY. Do not use deionized, tap, rain, or spring water. Distilled Water is readily available in most grocery stores. Check labeling to be certain that it is distilled and not deionized. The pricing is comparable.

 

2.)  Ethanol must be purchased at a "Liquor Store" or a "Liquor Control Board" that is suitable for human consumption, and the appropriate taxes must be paid. This assures that the alcohol consists of only Ethyl Alcohol and water. You need to purchase the 95+% version, also known as 180+ Proof. NOTHING ELSE is acceptable. (100% Ethyl Alcohol is not available under "normal" circumstances). Denatured alcohol from a Hardware Store or elsewhere is PROHIBITED, as well as ANY other alcohols.

 

3.)  Tergitol 15-S-7 is made by Dow and is available on the internet in small quantities from Laboratory Supply Houses such as Fisher and Advance, etc.. I have no affiliations with either Dow Chemical, or Fisher, or Advance. You MUST use Tergitol 15-S-7 ONLY. No other Tergitol product is acceptable for this designed formula, and you need to acquire the undiluted form only.

 

4.)  The above cleaner formula will result in a non-foaming (VLF) Surfactant Formulation that exhibits the following:

            Surface Tension of 28.5 dynes/centimeter @ 20 C. (68.0 F.)

            Surface Tension of 28.2 dynes/centimeter @ 25 C. (77.0 F.)

 

5.). A Surface Tension of 28.5 dynes/centimeter is Remarkable and will properly clean records of all organic soilings, and all oily substances, as well as very significant amounts of inorganic soilings.  This available Surface Tension coupled with the Azeotropic Characteristics of very rapid evaporation and spotless drying occur because of the selection of Ethyl Alcohol and the very specific concentration determined as 22.00% p.b.w., further improves the products abilities.  The "Ease-of-Use" and "Spot-Free" results are to be accepted.

 

6.). Be aware that an "ideal temperature of use" also exists for this formulation.  And, that reasonable temperature is 40 C. (104.0 F.). Further increases in temperature offers no improvement, therefore, confirming the proper use of the term "ideal". I mention this not because of of any substantial improvement, but, only to be aware of its’ existence. And, if you have a choice to utilize a room that is warmer than another, select the warmer room closer to 104.0 F. There is no need to elevate the temperature of the records or the materials. Simply be aware that 104.0 F. Is ideal.

 

If interest is expressed in this submission, I am willing to provide additional submissions regarding other materials, and, other areas of interest.  Such as"Best Contact Substance", "Best lubricants for turntables", " Better Dampening Materials" for turntables and tonearms, and, most significantly, "Best" material for "Turntable Platter/Vinyl Record Interface" usually called "Record Mats". The last item will certainly disturb many individuals and anger many suppliers.

 

Whatever I may contribute is substantiated by Science and Testing, and Verifiable. Science has no Opinions. Opinions in these matters are best reserved for those who rely on their imagination and wishful thinking.

 

Also, I have no vested interests in this Industry. Simply possess some scientific knowledge that also relates to some aspects of the Audio Area, and I am willing to share that information if requested!

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@wizzzard Thank You for your recommending a method for producing a solution, that can be used as a alternative to my already in use PAVCR recommended solution, for the successfully used Manual Cleaning Method.

I will be considering this alternative mixture for the BASF Dehypon LS 54, and will work out the best method for myself to determine if there is more to be attained over a already tried and tested method, that has yielded substantial improvements over all other cleaning methods used.

 

I don’t see the need to be concerned that Tergitol S7 or Lutensol® LA 60 are not readily available.

It does seem Neil Antin has found the substance that is readily available in the UK.  

@antinn 

I think there is way too much variation between vacuum machines to make a blanket statement. I'm a bit confused. You said the record did not fluoresce but the rinse water did. The stuff that did not fluoresce on the record now fluoresces in the rinse water. I'm having trouble with that.

My goal is to remove all the debris and contamination from the record. It is not to not leave a residue. As a matter of fact I want to leave a very small residue to combat static. The Tergitol is like water soluble oil. It is slippery stuff. This may be psychological but it seems to me that the background noise present in all records is quieter after cleaning and I question a lubricant effect. 

My experience with the Loricraft, when compared to the VPI 16.5, is that it does a better job of drying the record, and presumably removing dissolved cleaning chemicals. While I am currently experimenting with pure DW in a Degritter afterwards, I am not noticing any tendency to foaming, even towards the end of twenty records, at which time I change the water.

@mijostyn

"I'm a bit confused. You said the record did not fluoresce but the rinse water did. The stuff that did not fluoresce on the record now fluoresces in the rinse water. I'm having trouble with that."

The residue that was on the record was at levels below visually detectable.  The general rules of thumb are a person with unmagnified 20:20 vision can under bright white light (100-foot candle source positioned 18" above the surface) see a 50-micron particle while with intense UV (assuming the film/particle is fluorescent) can see 25-35-micron depending on the UV light source.  Industrial UV inspections lamps can be 100W (and can could damage the record) while what was used was 10W.  

However, once the UV dye was rehydrated and dissolved by the rinse water, and being effective at "ppb's", the rinse water covering the surface the record becomes easily detected.

The Tergitol is like water soluble oil. It is slippery stuff. This may be psychological but it seems to me that the background noise present in all records is quieter after cleaning and I question a lubricant effect. 

The quantity of Tergitol 15-S-7 you are using is 38 mg/L, which is the same as 0.038 mg/ml.  If you leave behind 1-ml, 0.038-mg uniformly spread across the record will yield a uniform film thickness of about 0.0038-microns.  This is below the best info I can find the record surface roughness of 0.01-micron which is smoother than a #8 Super Mirror Finish/Non-Directional Mirror Finish used to produce/polish stainless steel mirrors.  If the Tergitol 15-S-7 did provide a lubricant effect, then you should also believe that the LAST treatment works.  The LAST treatment as @wizzzard elaborated being nothing more than a perfluorinated oil (such as Fomblin Y45 datasheet.aspx (ulprospector.com)) dissolved in in a fluorinated solvent, the solvent evaporates leaving behind an oil film.  

Now all nonionic surfactants are somewhat hydroscopic, but they pale in comparison to the hydroscopic nature of the cationic surfactant BAK-50 that you use as an external anti-static.  

Note that RCA developed an internal cationic anti-static record composition over 60-years ago G. P. Humfeld, Anti-Static Phonograph Records, RCA Engineer Magazine Vol. 6, No.3. October-November, 1960 1960-10-11.pdf (worldradiohistory.com).  Given the complexity of coating the pellets, and the experiences with modern pressings, I doubt that this internal anti-static treatment is much in use today.

As far as 'why' your records have a lower background noise - you never indicated the composition/concentration of what your cleaner was, but you earlier indicated that detritus was periodically building up on your stylus - is that still the case?  If not, you may have your answer.  Any detritus that builds up on a stylus can have profound effects on playback beyond the simple background noise.  Read this article - STYLUS MASS AND DISTORTION, by J. WALTON, Wireless World, April 1963, Wireless-World-1963-04.pdf (worldradiohistory.com).

Take care,

@antinn 

Like I said, psychology is a powerful complicating factor especially when it comes to subtle differences. 

I just started using a new formulation with very small amounts of Tergitol and BAK, much less than I was using before. So far the stylus has remained clean. 

@wizzzard 

I hate to tell you this but the ethanol destroyed the seal in the water pump of my machine with obvious results. I took it apart, dried it out and fashioned a new seal with spicket packing. We are back in business. I also have a spare pump but I hate to use it. I exposed the packing to 150 proof ethanol and it dissolved. I have to reformulate. Any Suggestions? I switched back to Isopropyl 10% and increased the Tergitol to 4 drops plus 2 drops BAK which kills the static even at this low concentration.