Immersive Audio and How to Achieve It

Great post...

There is some truth in the idea and experience of kota1, but stereo system with no DSP and and dsp for home theater and multichannels are TWO world,..Then there is another sort of truth in stereo system...

Accoustic for small stereo room is one thing , and home theater another one...

I watched the video.

Is the difference between us that I view immersion more in terms of the capacity of the listener while you seem to view the listener more as a passive factor, with technology facilitating immersion? Or perhaps we define immersion differently. I don’t need to have my walls "painted with sound" in order to experience what I describe as immersion. This sounds like a remedy for people’s senses having become dulled.

If one is esthetically sensitive by nature, as I am, and has experienced making music, as I have, there is no need for any "added stimulation". I’m reminded of a current local Van Gogh exhibit I read about, which incorporates blowing up and projecting his paintings onto museum walls, so people can "walk through them". As a life-long art lover and someone who’s been involved in drawing, printmaking and photography, this strikes me as very odd -- that people can only perceive and appreciate art when it’s turned into an IMAX experience.

@stuartk

Is the difference between us that I view immersion more in terms of the capacity of the listener while you seem to view the listener more as a passive factor, with technology facilitating immersion?

Yes, I am focused on the tech side in this thread, buying a single pair of speakers for $$$$ is the costliest, least effective way to achieve an immersive experience or "a suspension of disbelief". The room is more important than the equipment so that means room treatments and some type of tech to measure and possibly use DSP.
A surround processor or receiver tops out at about $20K for a Trinnov but outstanding choices are available for far less. Finally 9-12 moderately priced small speakers setup properly with a couple of subs instead of two expensive towers.

Finally to have two sources, one for channel based audio and one for object based audio. My guess is less than 50% of the members here have experienced high end object based audio in a properly setup room.

that people can only perceive and appreciate art when it’s turned into an IMAX experience.

There is a lot of truth to that statement, and not just IMAX size screens. The members here have some incredibly luxurious systems and rooms. It is a matter of preference I guess.

@mahgister

An immersive one for an headphone without the BACCH filters or no dSP associated like the Smyth realizer... The K340 is among the few the best designed headphones ever...

Can you please post a link, to those cans, I have a great headphone amp and would like to try, thanks.

Is it this one?

https://www.headfonia.com/akg-k340-bass-heavy-version/

@cleeds 

In fact, some of the best recordings available are only minimally processed.

I agree, too bad it isn't the standard though....

https://www.cnet.com/culture/compression-is-killing-your-music/

@donavabdear 

Will the listener be put in the position of a listener in the audience, will the listener be put in the position of hearing direct and acoustic sound that is in the mind of the musician and producer

When they were recording the London Symphony Orchestra they miked it and positioned the objects so the listener was positioned at the conductors stand! 

Listen to how Brian Eno discusses about how he uses his intentions to place the listener in space, about 3:00 mark:

https://youtu.be/VF4Ka3nfvYc