If the DAC is the same, how different do CD transports sound?

@audphile1

don’t take it the wrong way, but I think you are too excited to see the conclusion of that video aligned with what you were hoping to hear. In other words you had a biased opinion going in and now it impairs your ability to keep an open mind.

You might be right. I’m going to accept your take as a reasonable hypothesis and reconsider why I’m posting this. The funny thing is, I have disconnected my CD transport because I’m not using it very much. I stream all the time. So, I’m not that motivated to keep what I have vs. upgrade. I find the question theoretically interesting and two audiophiles I admire for their acument (including @jjss49 ) make the same argument as the video. So, if I’m biased, it’s because the people I respect for their knowledge agree with the video, not because I have a dog in this fight.

Your argument on why the number of views matters is pretty weak as well.

I really botched explaining it. My apologies. Here’s another way to look at it. If you were on a youtube video accidentally slipping on a banana peel, would you want it to have 93k views or 10 views? Probably 10 views, because no one wants to be embarrassed. The same idea holds for those mentioned as participating in this review. He names them here: https://youtu.be/TAOLGsS27R0?t=528

If they have reputations they want to protect, then if the experiment in which they’re mentioned is a shoddy one -- with 94k views -- that works against them. That’s the best I can phrase the argument, but I’m happy to agree to disagree on this one.

Based on personal experience with both CD players and ripping CDs I suspect if or when a significant difference exists it is most likely due to how the player handles poor quality CDs that take longer to get the data off than good quality CDs.

For example I rip CDs using your basic usb CD drive. Poor quality CDs take much longer to rip with no errors, but eventually 99% of CDs do rip with no errors.

Thing is you CAN NOT tell a good quality CD from a poor quality one by just looking and the quality can vary to a great degree.

Meanwhile playing a CD requires the data be read fast enough to keep the music going. Lots of things can go wrong if the data is not buffered to faster more reliable storage before going through the D 2 A process.

So to me playing a CD is a bad idea and lots can go wrong. Some players are surely better than others. It’s not rocket science though so no need for a reliable CD player to cost a huge premium.

That means I always rip my CDs once then stream them. I never use a CD player anymore. It just makes sense and provides a greatly enriched user experience once a CD is ripped to disk in a music library.

My advice: Join the 21st century. Just rip and stream. I use dbpoweramp software to rip which does a very good job of providing accurate rips. Any decent computer CD drive will do and cost very little. Keep a CD player around for an emergency perhaps, if you must. I do but have not used it in years.

They all sound different. You do you.

Mapman,

I agree with you about ripping and streaming.  I utilize a Naim UnitiCore to rip and store my CDs as WAV files (it has a built in 8tb hard drive).  Of my 5,000 CDs, only four could not be ripped because the CDs also had video content.  Like you, I have noticed that some CDs take MUCH longer to rip because they have parts that have to be read over and over for error correction.  The ripper reports the number of errors that required interpolation to fill in error gaps.  Of these 5,000 CDs, the ripper has found zero errors requiring such measures.

The ability to search for any CD by knowing the tiniest bit of information, or browsing the collection by genre is priceless, particularly with a large collection.  The convenience of not having to search for each CD and then having to re-file them when done is also great.  The fun of assembling long playlists is also not to be overlooked.

Hi all, I bought a ProJect RS2T for my Border Patrol Dac. Never had anything else to compare, as I'm more into analog and just wanted a good transport under 2.500 eur (I live in Poland) without visiting 20 dealers and here for 2.000 eur you can get a ProJect. But I tell you something, I used to have also the ProJect power supply, the RS BOX UNI 1 Way and later I sold it for very decent money. Then I decided to plug a new power cord into the Dac. I had for one year a Cardas Parsec, when I ordered from Pete a Triode Wire Labs' High Power Digital American power cord. It was night and day. I have no longer the power supply so I'm using the stock one, but anyway the sound it's much better than before, just with the new power cord. Like listening to a different Dac or amplifier. Same with analog system, when I plug Pete's power cord into my Leben CS300F the sound becomes dramatically better, more structured highs and bass, more depth, more details, voices much more present and "human". So for my personal experience cables do make a different, in the case of this power cord a terrific difference. And that's what I suggest to get the full potential from your equipment.