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Need help from you acoustical experts

Here is the latest version of my new listening room. Everything is nice and symmetrical. Depth is ok, width could be a little better. Most of the treatments are from GIK Acoustics, placed where they recommended.(mostly).

Treatments on the side walls are at 1st and 2nd reflection points.

Walls are drywall screwed and glued to steel studs, paneling glued and strapped to drywall and filled with Rockwool. The ceiling has R30 insulation covered by CelingMax grid, screwed to the joists (not hanging). Dedicated circuit for the stereo, and HVAC ducts insulated to keep it quiet.

Yeah, it’s very quiet. Creepy quiet.

My issue is probably with the treatments. Midrange/singers are very forward, and high in the room. Usually as high as the white music note panels, and sometimes the singer sounds like she’s on the ceiling between the speakers.

Anyone see a mistake I’m making with the acousticsounds panels, either placement or type?

I’d like to post some pictures, not seeing how to do it. Guess you'll need to look at my profile. 

 

 

traudio
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nonoise
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I have to make a correction in that the boards are made of spruce and not birch. Must have had a brain fart when composing the above post.

All the best,
Nonoise

traudio OP
79 posts
 

One of the things I should have made more clear in this thread was that these speakers were designed to be close to the wall and not toed in, unlike most others.

From the manual: "We have found that placing the speakers from 3” (75mm) up to 20” (500mm) from the wall results in the best bass power and tightness. Please experiment but make sure that the speakers have had at least 500 hours on them before making your final decision".

I have tried moving them away only to loose bass. The bass response is great right now and I have taken the diffraction wood panels off the front of some of the treatments which has helped. These speakers worked great when I had to share the living room and was not able to have a pair that needed to be pulled far from the walls to sound the best. 
I think that since i have a dedicated room now, that It may just be time for different speakers. 

coppy777
118 posts
 

I think we'd all agree that speakers designed to be close to the back wall are a design compromise to assist people who don't have the room or the WAF.  Had some Wilsons with the same issues.  That placement increases the natural bass of the speaker and so suggests they reduced the bass output in the design.  Imaging does require about four feet of space from the wall.  You might consider one or two quality subs to augment the sound, a good idea in any case.  Why don't you give VS a call and get their thinking. I'm sure they hold their value well, so you could change them out for a brand that doesn't require the close to the wall placement.  

traudio OP
79 posts
 

I did try a pair of svs subs, but ended up returning them. 

I may call VS.

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