Need advice for bi-amping or tri-amping Sonus Faber Aida speakers


I am thinking of bi-amping or tri-amping my original Sonus Faber Aida speakers and have two questions:

1. How can I tri-amp when my preamplifier only has two sets of balanced outputs to amplifiers?

2. The Aida manual says when bi- or tri-amping I need to use the same amplifiers for all three speaker connection posts. However, I have seen many posts recommending using powerful solid state amps for the bass connection and tube amps for the mid and treble connections. Which way should I go?

I’m currently using Audio Research Reference 160M tube amps to power the Aidas and have no complaints but I’ve read that bi- or tri-amping them will sound even better. Thanks for the help!

stewartgr

stewartgr

How can I tri-amp when my preamplifier only has two sets of balanced outputs to amplifiers?

If you want the full benefit of biamping or trIamping, you'll need a crossover after your preamp to feed your amplifiers, so your preamp would only need one set of outputs.

OP:

You’ll need a splitter or amps that have inputs and outputs. Parasound often have these.

The issue I think SF is concerned about is having equal volume. While there is a convention that power amplifiers have ~ 26 dB of voltage gain, it’s not a law and amp makers may vary from it, so if you plan on mixing amps you would need a way of turning the loudest amp down relative to the other 2.

Also, worth checking that the + and - pins are not shorted internally before using multiple amps.

You asked for advice. All I have is an opinion. so I’ll share it and feel free to ignore it: unless your amp is inadequate, it is generally a waste of time.   

I will admit that using an SS amp on the bass might free up your tube amp.

Jerry

 

One more thing to consider, if using a tube preamp, it may not like driving 3 amps at once.  Check the minimum impedance.

Very nice system, speakers. This is a very exciting question. Audio Research with Sonus Faber is magical!

It would be great to see your system as it is today. Makes it much easier to make relevant comments. There is a place under virtual systems to post photos and ID your equipment.

Lots to consider. I have had both the Audio Research Reference 160m monoblocks and the Reference 160s for over three years, and I run Sonus Faber Amati Traditional. The monoblocks throw a deeper and wider sound stage. They are a must for the mix.

I would definitely use all Audio Research amps. You do not want to combine amps with different character, that would be a horrible thing to do. Obviously the ideal would be three sets of REF160, monoblocks. That would simply be amazing. Just the thought is so amazing… if you can afford it… simple talk directly to audio research about the ideal combo… well, do that under all circumstances.

Talk to ARC… but you might end up with a REF80 for the high frequency, REF160m monoblocks for the midrange and use your REF 160s for the bass. If that is too expensive… maybe just Biamp? use your REF 160 for the bass and add monoblocks for your mid/upper range. My feeling is this last combo would get you the extended sound field and much more punch and clarity.

Also, Audio Research will be releasing their Referece 320 amp soon, this might play into the picture.

 

Where do you live… I’d love to hear your system before and after. I live outside of Portland, OR.