USB Cable


I'm considering upgrading a generic 5 meter USB from pc to DAC.   Opinions please on DH Labs Mirage vs Transparent Audio.  Has anyone had an opportunity to compare  in a quality system?

savant19970

Audiotroy- you don’t know what you don’t know! You call people dumb when all you do is try to sell someone gear that you carry. Everybody can see this.

If you call us all dumb, I’m going to say you can’t hear. If you think usb sounds good, then you need new ears. USB sucks for a dac interface. Why do you think people spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on usb tweaks/gimmicks to try to get better sound? I’m sure you sell some of these gimmicks too. I’ve been down the dedicated streamer/usb dac route with over thousand $$$ of usb tweaks/gimmicks while using a $1000 usb cable and sold all of that crap and got the best dac that uses a better interface than usb and went with Roon and audirvana. 
I have my eye on a couple of streamers now that don’t even provide an usb output, so I might try 1 of them, but I really don’t want a streamer/computer (all streamers are computers) in my dedicated listening room.

I find Audiotroy‘s comment offensive and unwarranted. USB is a fraught interface, at a minimum requiring separation of the 5V and signal lines, better even using a galvanic isolator and in high resolution systems more likely requiring re-clocking than not as well. His relentless shilling of product is tiresome.

No further affirmations needed! There are several folks here, who took the initiative to audition a high quality streamer over PC; heard the obvious improvements and couldn’t go back to PC as their prime source for streaming.

The 1’s and 0’s and bits are bits believers won’t understand the value proposition of a well-designed streamer. Just leave them be.

I am curious how many of these people used a fibre optic cable for the final feet just before the DAC. Something like a Sonore OpticalRendu or better yet a Lumin X1 with direct fibre into the DAC. Compare that to a million-dollar music server/streamer (or also called a computer). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zncAhs44sp8&t=1564s

The reviewer offers a more objective assessment of Supra, Wireworld, and Oyaide USB cables. I encourage you to watch the video for a comprehensive evaluation if desired. In essence, the reviewer concludes that, in his opinion, Supra provides the best sonic quality with a slightly richer and warmer sound, possibly due to its better EMI/RFI rejection capabilities. He notes that Oyaide is less bright and harsh compared to Wireworld. I also looked into their impedance specifications; both Supra and Wireworld are rated at the standard 90 ohms, but I couldn’t find the impedance rating for Oyaide.

 

 

@soix

+1 Very true. PCs cannot compete.

I played with PCs for a number of years. I used different software, striped down the background jobs, Changed cables, added noice reduction… did the same on a MAC, ran it on batteries. Still my first stand alone streamer was completely blew away the PCs… the noise floor dropped precipitously, the treble improved enormously, imaging vastly increases… etc.

 

If you are using very inexpensive audio gear that itself is very noisy and low fidelity… then there may not be a difference. But as soon as you have a good system, there is no comparison. I am sure this line varies from system to system.