Horns with good timbre and tonality?


I’m looking into buying a pair of horns for my next speaker. I sold my Sonus Faber Elipsa SE. Looking for a more realistic, more lively sound. I’ve heard the Triangle Magellan and enjoyed the sound, but wonder if there is better.

I appreciate speed and dynamics with good timbre and tonality. I know horns are good with speed and dynamics, but not sure if they can do timbre and tonality like SF can.

Looking at German Blumenhofer FS1 / FS2, French Triangle magellan, Fleetwood deville, Avantgarde.

It will be paired with Mastersound 845 Evolution SET or Auris Fortissimo amp.

Room size 40 x 15 x 8 feet

Must realistically play Solo Piano, Cello and full scale symphony.

 

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I'd try a pair of Volti Razzes it the return policy wasn't so final. NO returns for any reason.

According to Volti’s newsletter, Greg will be at the Florida expo in Feb. From what I’ve read in the past he gets good mentions from TAS and Sterophile. Partners with Border Patrol and Triode labs. 
 

Did I mention I’m completely smitten with my Razz?? 

I've heard most of the speakers mentioned here, but not the Blumenhofer or OHA speakers.  I like a lot of these speakers, but, I prefer the custom builds I've heard, particularly because they are specifically tuned to the buyer's taste and room acoustics.  The builder in my area, Deja Vu Audio, utilizes a mix of vintage and modern drivers and parts, but the key ingredients are rare, vintage midrange drivers and horns.  

Most of the systems mentioned above are quite good, so any specific ones I particularly like are those that happen to fit my personal preference so they are not necessarily better than the others.  For example, I like the JBL Everest even if the overall tonal balance is not quite warm enough for my taste.  I have heard many vintage JBL horn systems and that company has remained pretty consistent in its overall sound.  Likewise, I like the Classic Audio systems--the JBL Hartsfield reproduction and the field coil speakers, but, they are too bright for me to truly love them.  Avantgarde Duos and Trios are very nice too, but, for me the bass does not match the rest of the sound and seems a bit "slow" and lumpy (still a fantastic sounding brand).  Its been a while since I heard the Odeons, but, I liked them too.  Voltis are very good for the money, and have very well built cabinets, but, the ones that look like Classic Klipsch speakers sound like improved Klipsch and don't quite have the magic of the very best horn systems from the past.  The smaller Volti (is that the Razz?) is a nice and lively system, but, the bass does not quite match the rest of the sound (still a very good speaker at a very reasonable price).

Someone mentioned the Charney Audio speakers.  I don't know if they qualify as horn systems, although the cabinet is often called a quarter wave back loaded horn (I think of horns as having compression drivers for the midrange/tweeter). They are, to me, fantastic sounding, particularly for the money, and they most certainly do sound like horn systems.  They don't deliver truly deep bass with impact, but, that is not a big personal priority and they do so much of everything else so well.  The same goes with Songer  Audio's field coil speakers--not horns, but horn-like in sound (very fast, dynamic and lively sounding, particularly at low volume levels). 

Seawave Acoustic AM23. Heard this large monitor at Axpona and was impressed. Might be the best sounding monitor I have heard. 

1st, know the Horn's Angle of Dispersion

Some horns are designed for wide horizontal dispersion, say big room, stadiums, and many horn speakers orient the horns that way, not best for home listening which wants narrow dispertion for tight imaging, minimizing early side wall reflections. It's not just horizontal or vertical orientation, it also involves the horn's specific mouth design.

Others are specifically designed to produce narrow dispersion, like this Electro-voice T350, designed for their vintage home speaker systems

https://products.electrovoice.com/binary/T350%20EDS.pdf

Vertical and Horizontal Polar dispersion graphs showing volume fall off in db used to be standard for vintage drivers

https://www.ravepubs.com/a-deeper-dive-into-loudspeaker-directivity/

tight width and tight height dispersion also minimizes early floor and ceiling reflections. 

tilting vintage home horn drivers is important, aiming tweeters at seated ear level, and toe-in so the horns face the listener, to work properly with the designed polar output.

The big Klipsch horns, the horn is horizontal, and is designed to disperse the horn's dispersion at 45 degrees into the space, away from the side walls, tight height output, into a LARGE space.

Many horn designs today orient the horns for too wide distribution, weakening imaging, producing early and too strong side wall reflections.

So, ascertain the horn's dispersion before moving on to other factors, listen for tight imaging, lack of early reflections.