What is meant exactly by the description 'more musical'?


Once in awhile, I hear the term 'this amp is more musical' for some amps. To describe sound, I know there is 'imaging' and 'sound stage'. What exactly is meant by 'more musical' when used to describe amp?

dman777

@dman777 , you're 100% correct.  AS3200 is very tube sounding. And a amp I'll be enjoying for a while.  When you listen to the Luxman 590II vs AS3200 they are completely different.  Luxman has the detail, refiness and precision that a class A is known for.  The speaker matching is very important.  I've never own McIntosh gear so I cant say much of their characteristics.  I know people aren't fans of Yamaha gear on Agon, but when you look at their company history, technology and musical instruments.  Yamaha knows what they are making and selling.  I'm a character of less is better and amps that are 100w fall in my category.  For me its always music first, but man, equipment that looks nice just makes it so much satisfying to own and hear.

Thanks for your interest but i posted already many post about musicality in this thread ...😁

And yes it help to be an artist ... As medecine based on science is an art , acoustics based on pure science may be also an art ...

And even listening is an art ...

Only  transhumanist could think that replacing the human part of science which is art by an artefact could dream about the replacement of all artists by machine and anyway the end of mankind for a meaningless nightmare ... but i am out of the matter as often ... I apologize ...

My best to you ...😊

@mahgister would love to hear your perspective on this.

@tunefuldude You should do some reading about Lyngdorf’s approach. 

Thanks, I will take a look. Sort of set on keeping my Coda power amp though, I am quite taken by it. 

@mahgister I find it interesting, what you have to say about medicine. Are you a doctor of some sort?

My experience is that traditional medicine here in the US has become much more about the science and almost devoid of art. I think doctors who participate in managed care have their hands tied behind their back when it comes to the art part because they're so bound by protocols. This is what I've been told by other doctors who've sought my help along the way.

The reason I appreciate what you say about the art and science is because I practice a type of healing that I perform with my hands, which gives it a very heavy artistic component. And that's something I love about the work I do, it's very much a science, but imo even more of an art, which is why it's been such a rewarding career for me personally.

The objective of the treatment is to restore as much of the normal movement of the tissues of the musculoskeletal system as possible, and the lesion that I'm treating with my hands is the restriction in the vertebral joint. As the normal movement is restored to whatever degree possible, it allows the body to do what it was intended to do in the first place, which is to heal itself.

@hilde45 I think I can boil this down a bit. In the text below, I'm repeating myself in several different ways.

For a designer's point of view, if they understand the rules of human hearing perception, they can design (if they understand the technology well enough), an amplifier, preamp or loudspeaker that will be deemed musical by those that hear it.

This is because the rules of human hearing perception are universal.

People ascribe taste to music itself. That's different. They might also want to hear more or less bass, more or less treble. That is still in the realm of taste, providing:

The distinction I am making is that as long as tonality is not induced by distortion, in particular the higher frequencies, then the amp or whatever will be deemed musical. If tonality comes from tone controls and is not induced by distortion, that is perceived as 'taste'.

It took me a while to understand how distortion imparts tonality. I've come to the conclusion that if a designer is pragmatic about that, then that allows access to designing an amp or whatever that will be musical, having nothing to do with taste (which has everything to do with the signal you put thru that amp or whatever).

Does that make more sense to you? This really isn't about philosophy and rabbit holes. Its simply the distinction between taste and common physiology.