For those that have heard Dutch & Dutch 8c..


For those that have heard the Dutch and Dutch 8c speakers, Are they more clinical sterile monitor sound or great musical speakers? Also, they have DSP to improve  room acoustics correct?

The reason I ask this is because I was considering upgrading my integrated amp and speakers to improve the sound in my apartment living room which is about 14'x14'. I thought by the time & cost for me to improve my integrated amp and speakers, I may be within a couple grand of getting some powered speakers like the D&D 8c that I could run off of my BS node 2i streamer since I stream all my music. ( I do have an old separate parasound dac, But let's remove that from the equation.).

Does anybody here see a synergistic combination of used items for sale (integrated amp and speakers) that would provide a better value and sound for an apartment system to stream music on?

Oh! My current system is a Yamaha A-S500 and Acoustic Energy Aegis 3 speakers. [I don't have/use a sub. It would just annoy apartment neighbors].

(and blusound node 2i, parasound zdac, etc)

I stream spotify premium for my listening,

[but do have a collection of flac files on hard drive (nas) that isn't even used anymore]. 

Thanks for your thoughts and input about the D&D 8c or other options.

I previously had Revel f208 but they overpowered the room and had a very "dry" bass. Something with a musical size/power less than the f208 and better sound than the AE Aegis3 would probably be ideal for my listening volume and neighbor's tolerance. Thanks!

128x128labguy

I am seriously looking at the 8C but I probably will keep my LUMIN X1 until at least I can be sure the 8C alone can handle everything flawlessly. Thanks. 

I’ve had my 8c for almost a year, replacing a big rig of shindo a23 and Aqua.  The whole point and beauty of the 8c is you can dump all your other shit; this point is proving exceedingly difficult for many to wrap their heads around.  
 

You have to Ethernet the Dutch to communicate with your network (no streaming), and then everything is controlled from your Roon (my laptop wirelessly). That’s it.

 When everything is implemented together like this, the results are ear opening.  I also have a TT; you’ll need an XLR from your phono to the Dutch for that.  For those wanting to integrate into HT, it will add complexity; mine is 2 channel audio only.  
 

Did I loose some “musicality” switching from high end multi box costing 5x?  MAYBE 5%.  But now I also actually have real bass and full treble (and can easily alter it on the fly as I please), the room correction addressed the awful acoustics in my listening space (most listening spaces), and the massive reduction in complexity, physical size, and greatly diminished  chances for system failure are a much needed sigh of relief.  About once every 12-18 months there are new software updates that keep improving it.  

There’s certainly a sex appeal to glowing tubes and an altar of beautiful electronics, but these speakers represent next century offerings that run circles around it.   Plus I still have my TT (which surprisingly sounds much better on this new “tech” rig than it ever did before).

What are the options should Dutch and Dutch no longer be in business in ten years?  What situations could one find themselves in should that be the case?