WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?


It seems like when I see comments on high end gear there is a lot of negativity. I have been an audiophile for the last 20 years. Honestly, if you know how to choose gear and match gear a lot of the high end gear is just better. When it comes to price people can charge what they want for what they create. If you don’t want it. Don’t pay for it. Look if you are blessed to afford the best bear and you can get it. It can be very sonically pleasing. Then do it. Now if you are also smart and knowledgeable you can get high end sound at mid-fi prices then do it. It’s the beauty of our our hobby. To build a system that competes with the better more expensive sounding systems out there. THOUGHTS?

calvinj

Exactly and the objectivist as the subjectivist are focussing on the GEAR piece, with their taste for the subjectivist and with electrical measures of the specs as the main ground of sound qualities ; the two sides ignore  psycho-acoustics and hearing theories and deep mystery  ...

This is why the two groups are deluded in their own opposite way , deluded by their "tastes" for the gear or deluded by the measured electrical specs ......

At least the subjectivist trust their ears for the better or the worst but the ears which must be trained by acoustics is the only ground for audio experience ...Not the electrical tool so useful it is ...

 

I will add that anyone participating in a DBT typically has a dog in this fight. They either want or dont want to hear a difference. The results can be tainted accordingly. The objectivist have created just as viable a market by taking a vocal position as have the subjectivists.

 

@scottwheel  The only one being a dickhead here is you, my friend. Your not knowing Barton was part of the original tests was born out by you when you said:

Actually Toole and Olive essentially did exactly the same test using speakers

Not together, not with them, but a different test that was done the same way.

can you cite the difference? My prediction is you dodge that question because there was no difference and you fire back with more dickish insults.

No need to. But since you seem to have selective memory, go up this page to what andrewdourin said @ 2:27pm. That is what I was comparing it to. That, and you sure like to use the dick a lot in all manner of variations. Grow up some, lad. 

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@mahler123 exactly. @scottwheel is hell bent on telling folks that they should trust their own ears! WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE? 

Another decent thread on A'gon derailed by a couple of wanna-be, butt-hurt, know-it-all pseudo-scientists.

Please see my first response to this thread on page 1.

 

 

“I will add that anyone participating in a DBT typically has a dog in this fight. They either want or dont want to hear a difference. The results can be tainted accordingly. The objectivist have created just as viable a market by taking a vocal position as have the subjectivists.”

whenever possible I do my own auditions and comparisons blind. I do have a dog in the fight, I want results that are the least tainted that I can get.