WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?

“Nothing is accomplished by lying to a group of listeners in a double blind. The fact the listeners, presumably, heard differences proves nothing other than the human tendency to believe what others (audio professionals) tell them. I hope no one is actually stating that the results from such a test are worthwhile.”

I think that was the point. Human tendency to form opinions on sound quality that are not actually based on sound. I guess audiophiles can either learn from it or get angry at it. Given the rampant lying by manufacturers of so many products it seems to be very much on point

“The protocols were completely different.”

No. they were nearly identical.

”One did nothing but try to elicit unfavorable results, rejoicing in his deception (he never changed a thing),”

and here is where you show us it’s about ego not knowledge. When one has an ego based emotional investment then one sees results as favorable or unfavorable. In both cases the results simply were informative. The protocols were IN FACT exactly as you say for BOTH tests. In the Toole Olive test THEY NEVER CHANGED A THING. You should get your facts right before talking about head injuries incurred by others. 

@coralkong now I remember why I left Audiogon in the first place.  One guy pushing his opinion on the rest on repeat! 

and here is where you show us it’s about ego not knowledge.

My god, the lengths you go to to subvert the subject. In the properly done test, being blind, the participants had to listen over time and develop an opinion whereas  the other test was just a means to deceive. You're way over your head on this one.

All the best,
Nonoise 

@scottwheel im done .   This is turning into too much negative energy.  Look I enjoy the hobby. I enjoy the music.  I’m not on here for the same reason you are.  I wish you nothing but the best.  Enjoy your system. Not gonna argue with you anymore. Take care best wishes.