Jazz for aficionados

I just finisher to listening to many albums of Manu Katché a drummer ...

The musicians who he attracted are very good ...

None of these 8 albums were bad... I pick only jazz albums .... Katché make other collaborations in many genres ...

We often think here in this thread about musician creativity and influence , who is the best at sax or trumpet etc ...

These are esthetical thoughts about creativity ...

our tastes evaluation  about creativity and esthetic  for each of us about any albums  can vary ...

But there is also healing effects which are specific to our own metabolism and habit ...Which effects are not evaluated as  esthetical factors ....

This explain why some music appears just good or bad for some and not for others ...

Katche music is very relaxing jazz to me ... 😊

@stuartk 

BTW, the "Lifetime" album I referred to was not the one with larry Young and Johnny Mac. It was this:

That is a really good album. Totally different then his later Tony Williams Lifetime Band. But as thefrogman said you can hear the direction Tony is headed for.

@frogman Thanks for your input on the Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, and Philly Joe discussion.

My drummer friend told me Elvin listened to a lot of Shadow Wilson's drumming for some of his own ideas especially concerning "triplet fills".

And here is a text my drummer friend sent me a while back about Jimmy Cobb and Philly Joe. My friend had just had a lesson with the NYC jazz drummer Dan Weiss. The lesson was focused on Roy Haynes's drumming.

Jimmy Cobb is playing brushes on that tune. Often the end of the brushes which has a metal loop is used to hit the cymbal and get a bright sound. Jimmy is great, known for his very open playing, a lot of space. Philly Joe is a genius with rudiments, John Riley refers to him as a card shark (video included). There is a book called Rudimental Swing Solos, it is written by Charles Wilcoxon. Philly Joe used this book a lot for his material for soloing, and fills. I really love Bill Evans, Everybody Digs Album. Philly only uses a snare, bass drum, hi hat, and ride cymbal, no toms. The soloing is so creative. 

PS, what I have been told is that during the recording of Everybody Digs Bill Evans, Philly had sold his drums for drugs, hence the small kit. There is a similar situation on Milestones.

I had my Dan Weiss lesson on Friday, we discussed this album, Thelonious In Action. I am working on some Roy Haynes trading/soloing. I am also learning Snap Crackle.

@frogman I was wondering if you know the jazz drummer Dan Weiss. He and my buddy Mike were working on Roy Haynes's famous "snap crackle" technique.

Haven’t listened to Kind Of Blue in a while, so I found a 24/192 version of the Legacy Edition and all it does is bring out the faults in the original recordings. I wonder if Peter Jackson would like to have a wack at it?

@pjw81563 I don’t know Dan Weiss personally, but I know his playing and he is very very good.  He has a great rep.  One of the best young drummers and part of the very hot and creative Brooklyn Jazz scene.