Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

It’s like informing someone who thinks they can see microwaves and x-rays that human vision is limited to red through violet wave lengths. It’s like telling someone who claims they can run 100 mph that no human can run faster than 23-25 mph. There is nothing extraordinary about your stereo or the stereos of other audiophiles or your hearing acuity or the hearing acuity of other audiophiles that is unknown, unresearched or magical. Human hearing thresholds are not mysterious unknown quantities.

It almost sounds like you're living with absolute certainty that we know everything there is to know. For example and let us assume that you can't hear 20khz or above. Now when you play a 21khz and 22khz simultaneously there is a possibility of a doppler pattern that occurs deriving a 1khz summing signal to your 1khz band, which you will definitely hear. It ain't all that straightforward dude..

There are various phenomena observed in nature for which we know how provide some type of empirical solution. We could simulate some other phenomena with physics models and so on, but, we can't always validate with measurements. We don't have the capability to measure everything or even know what to measure. There are very known limits to measurement instrumentation or even the design of certain types of experiments. There are all kinds of PhDs working 16 hour days because of the above mentioned. If they all take a pompous arrogant stance that "what they do not know shall not exist!", that would be very dumb.

@pindac im not hoping to bother reading his responses anymore. I’m done

@deep_333 i shall pay you more credit…. i dabble about for a few hours a day, not the 16 you mention  ( although my more fervent peers who are younger with more drive put in time like that… )   in Quantum computing…. where the boundaries of knowing and measuring live in stark but expanding contrast. It would be a better world IF more people with evangelical like certainty about JUST how the ear brain  works would approach it with less certainty…..

Great post! and in constrast with mine with only few words...😁

It would be a better world IF more people with evangelical like certainty about JUST how the ear brain works would approach it with less certainty…..

Those who brag about what science describe as possible and then about what is impossible are often wrong ...

Guess why?

Nature dont obey limited human technological dogmas...We learn from Nature habits, but nature habits are no more "nature" than the habits of someone are a definition of himself.. ( Philospher of Nature is a title dismissed in 1836 by the British society for the advancement of science under Whevell and Babbage tutelage, replacing it by the word "scientist" at the service of his majesty corporate powers and this was prophetized by Goethe Faust part two published three years before the real British "scientists" meeting )

And we dont understand hearing yet by the way ...Only those confusing DSP technology feats with hearing understanding brag about what is true and what is false about sound qualities as perceived ...

A simple example of impossibility for scottwheel :

is a man can for hours lay in a fire without being affected ?

Answer scottwheel please when patronizing us about science ... 😊

Listen to this and debunk it for us poor superstitous audiophiles ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfyrWRbmss

By the way instead of patronizing people about what they must hear and cannot hear... Why instead speaking about the BACCH filters a true acoustic revolution unrecognized yet by most audiophiles especially if unlike me you own one😁 ... Stirring a controversial pot is useless, speaking about an acoustic revolution would be more useful ...

This is the internet, the age of Trump, and outrage and disrespect for others seem to go hand in hand any any post you might write. Audio asylum has been this way for years which is why I never look at it or Facebook or any other.

I guess many were not taught in school, working well with others, being a good citizen, civics, and so on, all taught in elementary school and graded on your behavior. To be known as a liar was the worst thing you could be or called, all frowned upon you. Now you get elected to office. Sad you cannot have your experience posted without it turning into a blood bath at times. This hobby was one of sharing experiences and learning from each other from those who might have 30-40 years of experience.