Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

it is very simple... The less someone know about sciences the more materialistic he become with age... ( see Dawkins and others )

The more he know the more spiritual he become...

Is it a pure random effect that all the greatest mathematicians of the world , not some professor at harvard or Princeton, i spoke about the super genius in science are all "mystics" ?

In the past the exemple dont lack... Think about Blaise Pascal or Newton or Leibnitz...

Now go to the founder of set theory Cantor, a pure mystic who created his theory reading Dyonisos treatise on hierarchies ...Even Cantor method comes from spiritual contemplation ... I can even explain it how and why but it is not the place ...

Go to Ramanujan who spoke each night with Namagiri about number theory ...

The founder of all modern algebraic geometry and topos theory Alexander Grothendieck wrote a book of 1000 pages about God and dreams ... ( i have his 2 huge books )

Nowadays there is plenty of techno-cultist materialist, who knows nothing out of their fields , who flirt with atheism, materialism and transhumanism ...The dude who like the most science is "dr."  Bill Gates and look at what this fool is doing across the earth...Look at all the harm  he has done in the last years for profit..

Now in audio people live intimately with their soundfield, but if  psycho-acoustics taught us how to create a good stereo sound, as Dr. Choueiri the last genius in musical acoustic taught after many others psychoacoustics dont explain even the way we identify sound qualities... ( scottwheel will not contradict me about Choueiri he own the BACCH filters) 😊

Now these discoveries dont mean that we know how the ears/brain create "meaningful" sound with all this  information coming from his environment but also from many unknown factors working on the sound perceptible qualities  coming from a vibrating sound source  and perceived by a human as such and such qualities meaning such and such ... Humans are  not microphone at all ...

Ok i spoke too much...

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@maghister. I agree. Look we have opinions and I respect every one’s right to have an opinion but we have all different systems and to tell someone it’s not possible when the are listening to their own system while some are typing their scientific theories is beyond me.

It almost sounds like you’re living with absolute certainty that we can’t trust any of our senses. How did we ever survive before measurements?

Your retorts are littered with appeals to authority and red herrings that have nothing to do with audio except that very exacting devices are needed to discern them at their extremes. Within those extremes lies the areas that we can hear and that’s where our ears come in: to choose what sounds best to us.

I have lots of old, basic cables that don’t transmit without audible distortions of sorts that I keep around for whenever I come across a new piece of gear. Once that gear has settled in to my satisfaction, I’ll break out the older cables to see how they effect the sound and sure enough, they do what they’ve always done: distort audible parts of the sound and back in go my reference cables. End of story.

All the best,
Nonoise

we know very very much and can measure very much....there is also very very much we don’t know and very much we can only sort of measure, and lots we cannot correlate accurately to hearing about which there is much we know and much we don’t...we all do what works best for us...I’m very happy with my system and it seems most of us here are happy with their systems, despite the numerous ways we put them together and make our choices...

One of the things, life experiences..that keep me grounded  ( pardon the pun )…. is i helped run a decent sized satellite design/build/launch /operate business…..  including GPS …. fun stuff like XM Radio, Wide Band Gapfiller…. 

Hopefully you understand Relativity , including special doesn’t explain everything…. We will understand more when unified with a much improved knowledge of Quantum mechanics…. and my humility allows me to say…. there will be many things that unification will not explain…..

Chew on the power of relativity to fail on explaining singularity in a rotating black hole….

“The analogies he (scotty) comes up are always good for a laugh. He thinks himself clever by insulting members by way of insinuation, using obviously delusional claims and conflating them with what we claim when listening.”

If you feel insulted when faced with objective reality that’s your baggage. What is laughable is that you would whine about being insulted while calling me delusional in the same post. I don’t really care but the irony is amusing.