Sound Stage and Imaging

Room size concern: I am currently running my Nautilus 804 as SMALL speaker with lowest sub crossover my receiver can offer (50 Hz). Her two 16.5 cm low woofers cut at 350 Hz, and the large mid range runs from 350 to 4k. 

@grislybutter 

I can cook great, but baking requires too much accuracy for me.  @mahgister still took offence due to my previous comments about headphones. Anyway you can enjoy music is fine by me. Music lovers and audiophiles are two separate groups although you can be both. Believe it or not I know audiophiles who are not music lovers. They are sound lovers. Most music lovers are not audiophiles (Thank God).

If you are building your own loudspeakers you are most definitely a true audiophile in the best sense. 

Magister, you are over analyzing me. I am a simpleton, a rather rude one. Blame my parents. 

@kraftwerkturbo 

254 Hz is middle C! 350 Hz is well into the mid range. RAISE THE CROSSOVER POINT for the subwoofer.  Get it around 100 Hz and you will improve your speaker's headroom dramatically. If you are using one subwoofer 100 Hz might be a problem. If you can locate the sub by ear the best solution is a second subwoofer. If you can not do that drop the crossover point one step at a time until you can not locate it. This also assumes you are using a high pass filter on the main speakers. 

In spite of my criticism about some of your posts  where you discredited headphone owners , i appreciate that you are generally not only polite but patient...

By the way i like you as you are and you can be useful for information you deliver rightfully ...

this does not means that all you claims reflect absolute truth as you already know for sure ...😁

Dont change but try to open your eyes for other possibilities ...

Remember that i dont entertain grudges... But i like to be factual and sometimes more philosophical and i argue too much for some ... They even could be right ... 😊😉

my best to you as usual ...

Magister, you are over analyzing me. I am a simpleton, a rather rude one. Blame my parents.

I build my own room mechanical equalizer ...And i modified my speakers and all my headphones for the better i hope that this exclude me from the crowd of ignorant passive consumers audiophiles ?

If you are building your own loudspeakers you are most definitely a true audiophile in the best sense.

@grislybutter "254 Hz is middle C! 350 Hz is well into the mid range. RAISE THE CROSSOVER POINT for the subwoofer" The Nautilus 804 has no subwoofer, just 'woofer'. And small ones to begin with, so 350 Hz does NOT sound like a very high frequency for a 165mm cone (in fact the true MIDRANGE speaker has about the same size !!! playing all the way to FOUR THOUSAND Hz!)

And messing with the crossover of a fairly successful commercial speaker is "dangerous" IMO. The I'd rather do a full DIY and safe a few thousand dineros.

@kraftwerkturbo One more idea: Celestions are famous for their imaging. Under a $500 for a SL 6. Add 2 midrange subs and still under budget?