Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

Why on earth would I look up an interview on YouTube with a guy who is NOT Sean Olive or Floyd Toole when I can go straight to the source?

Paul Barton is of that source. Toole has worked with him from those early days and by now, should be back where the started which is where Barton lives (who’s looking forward to working with him again). They’ve never really been out of touch since the tests were conducted. If you took the time to listen to Barton, you’d know that Toole worked with him on speaker design parameters as well, helping to perfect the product. They were like two peas in a pod when it came to speakers.

That, and it’s not a YouTube video but a SoundCloud recording. What’s the matter, can’t you listen that long? Do you need pictures/video to keep your interest? Would what he said throw buckets of cold water on your position?

The Harmon Speaker Shuffler is located in Northridge, Ca., which looks to have been developed in the early 2000s. In 1966, Toole conducted his very first tests on speakers and listening and Barton joined him around 1974, in Canada.

What are you so afraid of?

All the best,
Nonoise

He is afraid of his own ears testimony....

Sorry i could not  resist ... 😊

@scottwheel  Toole's listening test were flawed, he positioned every different kind of speaker in the same location. 

@maghister he can’t trust his ears he does not want us to trust  ours.

Exactly!

I tried by two times to discuss rationally with him to no avail ... The last time he extracted my sentence of his context to made his obsessive point about double blind testing ...😁

I renounce to discuss with him ... He is of good faith tough, very intelligent , and i dont doubt his system is good with the BACCH filters... The problem is his past frustration , his change of mind about high end gear, then his crusade on us , poor deluded audiophiles he want to save us really , we are like he was before the enlightening sun of double blind test revelation as a debunking tool ...Now price tag means nothing for him compared to double blind test ...He turn his coat inside out about high end , beginning to be a customers of high end and now becoming a debunker ...😁

But for me price tags had never mean much because i learned how to use basic acoustics and other optimization methods to reach what i called : the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold , defined by a balance between all acoustic factors implied in the opti9mizaqtion process of any system/room at any price ...

I learned to trust and train my ears in a minimal way with acoustics experiments .. I dont need to be a debunker ...

Acoustician designing a small room dont use double blind test and has no need for it ...

@maghister he can’t trust his ears he does not want us to trust ours.