REL owners, how many clicks on your gain and crossover

REL says to start at 15 clicks, about 10:00 , then to adjust depending on room, main speakers, and personal preference. They estimate that most will end up between 12-18 clicks depending on those variables...

@paulcreed

“Roose, why don’t you understand rel says everyone will probably end up around 15 clicks. Why can rel claim how many clicks but I can’t ask how many clicks, makes no sense.”

REL doesn’t say that.

They suggest a starting point and attach a crossover value to that starting point. Since there’s no scale on the crossover pot people have to talk about “clicks” and not hertz. Silly REL.

But if you think about what you’re asking here the light should come on, hopefully.

What can you or anyone learn from knowing where people are setting their crossover points? You didn’t ask people to reveal what brand and model speakers they’re using, hence the number of clicks people arrive at provides no useful information for you, me, or anyone. It’s like asking people what time of day they put their garbage out.

Where you set the xo point is largely determined by the natural roll off of your main speakers, which is a function of the speaker design and how/where you have them positioned in YOUR room. And of course that includes your room dimensions, specifics about your room acoustics, etc.

So there are too many on-site variables for the “where’s your clicks” for it to provide anything meaningful to you or anyone else.

If you need help dialing in your subs and you’re wondering how to arrive at the correct crossover point then there are a few useful articles and/or videos around that are easy to find and easy to follow.
Here’s one, there are others. Good luck.

I've got a pair of Rel Ti/5's in a 11' x 13' room. I have them placed on the outside of my speakers. I'm currently running a pair of ATC SCM19v2's but occasionally swap in my Maggie .7's. 10 - 12 clicks on both the volume and crossover seem to get the job done for me. 

Roose, “put there garbage out” sorry I don’t get it. The subs are set up correct, I did list everything first post, 42hz, if you need speakers there Pulsars, reference 3a reflectors, I put room size and asked if people if they would like to put there set up it would be nice. 
 

My other system doesn’t need subs. When I was setting mine up I just wondered what others like. If there numbers, room and speakers were close to mine I think it would be interesting to know. I’m not trying to match others settings. Thanks everyone’s for there insight on how many clicks you used. 

There are tools you can use to precisely calibrate your subwoofer(s).

But, here is my take on this:

Music is more directional as the frequency increases. And, more omnidirectional as bass decreases. Natural bass notes have harmonics. The deepest bass tones will be directed to the sub, harmonics will find their way into the mains. Your ears and brain try to detect where the bass is originating from, which is going to be the higher frequencies in the spectrum. The goal here is to try to trick your brain into thinking the bass is coming from the mains and not the boxes located somewhere else in the room. This requires a combination of setting the crossover frequencies and subwoofer output to reach the best result. Too much gain and/or too high a crossover frequency will direct your ears to the boxes that contain the woofers. Depending on how loud you play, I try to place the responsibility on the mains to play as low as they can play and still sound clean, undistorted, and effortless and set the sub crossover accordingly. This gives the smoothest transition from low bass to the mid bass and makes your mains appear to magically have a couple 12" woofers in them.

It’s trial and error. The number of "clicks" required is difficult to predict. Good luck.