"The Mystery Of Sound Is Mysticism"


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The world dont lack enigmas...

But enigmas always had an answers even if we dont know it...

But some questions, as said Alexander Grothendieck ( "Nothing important can be proved") are mysteries which ask for our being itself and cannot be investigated without a transformation of the one who ask the question first ... Such are mysteries, which we cannot and must not confuse with enigmas ...

Consciousness is a mystery not a mere enigma...

Who was the man with the iron mask in history was an enigma that can be or could not be solved... But this question has an answer independant of the investigator ... As most scientific questions...But not all scientific questions are enigmas waiting to be solved ... Some are mystery waiting for us to be transformed first ...

A mystery cannot be solved in the same way as a mere enigma ...

A mystery ask for an initiation and a transformation from the inquirer ...

In mathematics as in religions, as in science, there is enigmas, but there is also mysteries ... Dont confuse and dont conflate them ... All the work of Blaise Pascal turn around the relation between question of reason and question of faith, between intuition and between logic...."Esprit de finesse et esprit de géométrie" ...

An enigma has a ready made answer waiting for us in history, in mathematics or in Nature ...

A mystery has only for answer our own being before and after... "A felt change in consciousness" as said Owen Barfield speaking of the language and the mystery of words which used in certain way modify the consciousness level ...

There is enigmas in linguistic , many; but the mystery goes way deeper than all the enigmas and questions we can asked .... Studying linguistic was for me as discovering mathematics, a stupendous mystery and a transformation of my being ...

@mahgister 

A mystery ask for an initiation and a transformation from the inquirer ...

I don't know if this is relevant but one of my teachers used to remind me "You are not doing awakening. Awakening is doing you! "

Your teacher is right...

In mystical experience or in samadhi experience the spirit decide not the ego , nevermind his work quality and quantity ultimetaly ...

But here in this thread i dont spoke about the high levels of spiritual experience, i spoke about the way to meditate music mysteries, numbers mysteries. poetic mysteries , mammals morphology mystery , plant morphology mystery , any Natural science mystery as observing water properties etc ...

Here we must ask for our sense to be initiated in Nature or in mind over the ego and his habits ...

And here a truely spiritual perception change us ...At least we learn how to forgot the ego for a moment ...

But no one achieve the highest spiritual heights because he, his ego , decide ...We are guided and not alone ...We are all ONE ...

Anyway we are all already enlightened but we dont know yet...We need some help ...

And those who love anyway are the helpers... And those who dont love are the best teachers ... Love your enemy say the Christ...

But here more modestly we spoke about sound mysteries ...Nature seen before the ego birth ...Numbers thought out of any logic ... Mammals seen for the first time... Plant seen where they are : in time flow...

 

A mystery ask for an initiation and a transformation from the inquirer ...

I don’t know if this is relevant but one of my teachers used to remind me "You are not doing awakening. Awakening is doing you!

A past sound coming from the future in a dreamed flow of dreams for now  :