What is meant exactly by the description 'more musical'?


Once in awhile, I hear the term 'this amp is more musical' for some amps. To describe sound, I know there is 'imaging' and 'sound stage'. What exactly is meant by 'more musical' when used to describe amp?

dman777

 

"More musical" means an upgrade of gear or /and upgrade of room acoustics...

Seriously???  That is what you think the definition of "more musical" is??  A simple "upgrade of gear"???  And if the gear upgrade doesn't work and the result actually sounds like hammered sh!t, then is it still "more musical"?

At least you were finally able to provide a concise definition.  I'll give you that anyway.

i spoke in my last post about an answer to your question : what are all the " more musical" OPTIONS ... What means more "musical" when a reviewer spoke about a piece of gear...

I dont spoke in this last posts as in my other posts here about the acoustic parameters defining the concept of "musical" in acoustic ... ( timbre- distortion- immersiveness- spatial qualities)

What control the impression of "musicality" we had in front of a system is not only gear change but room acoustic controls... For example the location of a listener in a room is a parameter of acoustic control etc... There is a huge number of parameters , dimension , geometry, topology, acoustic content ( glass or wood or rug etc) , surface ratio of reflection and absorption and diffusion and their balance , reverberation time , HTRF and inner ears parameters, pressure zones distribution , speakers characteristics, etc...All these parameters are used to CONTROL the timbre impression and the immersiveness by the right ratio between the sound source dimensions and the listener location, and finally the spatial dimensions between all sound sources ...

 

For example i just change a bad cable for a better one, but this small audible change dont compare to room acoustics change... Even most change in amplification or even with speakers change will not exceed huge impact of the acoustics room controls ...

But we cannot replace a bad amplifier with room acoustic control nor a bad cable or a bad dac by a new room ... 😊

 

 

 

"More musical" means an upgrade of gear or /and upgrade of room acoustics...

Seriously??? That is what you think the definition of "more musical" is?? A simple "upgrade of gear"??? And if the gear upgrade doesn’t work and the result actually sounds like hammered sh!t, then is it still "more musical"?

At least you were finally able to provide a concise definition. I’ll give you that anyway.

 

 
 

 

 

None of that (above in your last post) answers OP's question: "what is meant by ’more musical’"

However, when you typed that

"More musical" means an upgrade of gear or /and upgrade of room acoustics...

That was at least an answer to OP’s question. It was an answer that nearly had me rolling on the floor with laughter, but at least it was an answer.

There is only one way to improve musicality...

It is to EXPERIMENT with the relation between the gear and the room acoustic...

do you get it ?

Now if you want to know with WORDS what is musical... Try to read poetry ...

Acoustics science define "musical" in big books about all acoustic parameters and conceptual aspect of it ...

Timbre, immersiveness, and spatial qualities ...

Try an acoustician and read it ...

I suggest Dr. Edgar Choueiri...

And an advice: dont say to someone reading his post that you roll in laughters... The idiot is not always the dude who dont laugh ...

 

 

"More musical" means an upgrade of gear or /and upgrade of room acoustics...

Seriously??? That is what you think the definition of "more musical" is?? A simple "upgrade of gear"??? And if the gear upgrade doesn’t work and the result actually sounds like hammered sh!t, then is it still "more musical"?

At least you were finally able to provide a concise definition. I’ll give you that anyway.

There is only one way to improve musicality...

It is to EXPERIMENT with the relation between the gear and the room acoustic...

do you get it ?

I have no doubt about all of that, but the problem is, that does not answer OP’s question: "what is meant by more musical?"

Now if you want to know with WORDS what is musical... Try to read poetry ...

So when OP asks "what is meant by more musical?" this is NOW what your answer is? You are no longer saying that "more musical" means to buy an Atmasphere amp? What if OP has read some poetry but finds that defining a good poem versus a bad poem is a subjective process as well? What if OP enjoys reading but finds short fiction to be a preferable genre (to him or her) than poetry? Does this mean that OP can never know what musical is?

Acoustics science define "musical" in big books about all acoustic parameters and conceptual aspect of it ...

Okay, I’ve provided two definitions, one of which was relatively concise and concrete and the other which was concise but subjective . . . you have yet to provide ANY definition of "musical", except for a lot of meaningless word soup. Give me a concise definition of musical in 25 to 50 words if you can. And if you try and you find that "having the pleasing harmonious qualities of music" is the best you can come up with, I am okay with that. Then we can go down the "what is music?" rabbit hole.

Timbre, immersiveness, and spatial qualities ...

Okay, expand your definition to 100 words and explain how those properties define musical and I will probably ask you once again if, for an example, the group Mega Death is musical.

Try an acoustician and read it ...

Meaning that you cannot explain what "musical" means?

I suggest Dr. Edgar Choueiri...

How about Dr. Seuss?

And an advice: dont say to someone reading his post that you roll in laughters... The idiot is not always the dude who dont laugh ...

But in all seriousness, @mahgister , OP asks "what is meant by more musical" and you answer that an "upgrade in gear or acoustics" is the definition he is searching for . . . that IS funny!