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. . . and apparently by some SET standards, 14 or 15 wpc is a lot, as I keep reading about some of Dennis Had’s new stuff making less than 5 wpc? I DEFINITELY don’t think that would satisfy the average metal head.
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@atmasphere , although I have tried, classical is not my thing; but if it was and I wanted to hear The William Tell Overture (I hope I got that right) at what was a satisfying level, I wouldn't be looking at low powered SET stuff. And I wouldn't be looking at the low powered SET stuff if I was into death metal either. And most of the posts from the metal guys that do post here, seem like they are into the big SS stuff. I am not saying that I don't think tubes can do metal, but I am saying that I don't think 15 wpc or less is going to do what the average metal guy wats it to do. |
You express so bad faith or stubborness i dont know it is hard to correct all you say...
Nope i was refering to your own example of taste when people listening heavy metal may PREFER BY THEIR TASTE as you yourself claimed , may prefer to pick more powerful amp than atmasphere amp ... Do you remember ? You misread always to win a point because you have put NO ARGUMENT save insulting people as quack , or as words babble... Me or any acoustician i recommend in video or articles..
Now another misreading of my intentention and post to put me as a mere customer of atmasphere and promoter of his publicity... If you read my posts i spoke about ANY relatively good design piece of gear even at low cost is ENOUGH to start acoustical experiments... And if someone own an atmasphere amplifier it is certainly enough ..bad faith exist when someone distort the intention of someone to gain a point ..
You will never get it because you dont want to get it... I said multiple times that "musical" refer not to words as when you try to use the Webster Merriam dictionary to contradict me ( ignoring the historical context related to these words harmonious and euphonic by the way ) but "musical" refer to acoustical parameters controls in a room with a human perceiving subject doing experiment for his own sake or being a voluntary in psychoacoustics investigations about the conditions necessary for a "more musical experience" ... I presume my answer is a word salad for you ... 😊
Effectively here you shine at your best : insulting...
Now you end this postings criticism of us by admitting the truth... you dont need to understand... Your crocodile taste is enough it seems ...other people are only "quack" who spew "babbles" .. You acted as a troll in this thread willing to be one or not... And you put nowhere a single argument against atmasphere claim or against mine...... You are not ashame to appear "empty" as a senile patient repeating "what means more musical" without end and repeating that we do not say nothing even when i refer to many acoustics concepts and many possible experiments.... At the end of this discussion as the troll you are you spew the truth : you dont mind and you dont care , your system room is musical for you thats enough... But all people here are not trolling the thread and some want to know what atmasphere or dr. Edgar Choueiri had to say about what is "more musical" and they dont want a senile person or a troll repeating that all that is written here is "babble for quack" because YOU LIKE YOUR SYSTEM ROOM AS IT ISAND IT IS ENOUGH ... And anyone be it atmasphere or the two acousticians i suggested to read are quacks... The world end behind your back and in front of your nose concerning what is "musical" , no need of acoustics, you are very happy and dont mind about ANY UNDERSTANDING and dont give a damn about anyone who want to understand anyway in this thread really ... Do you get it ? But some people read this thread to LEARN ...They will appreciate...
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@immatthewj I have two tube amps, a Reisong A10 SET that puts out 6 watts a side and a Muzishare X7 push/pull which does 35 or 45 a side depending on the mode. Both will play to uncomfortable levels with efficient speakers if desired. What is an average metal head anyway? I don’t think one exists! :) All I know is I like it loud when the party is going but otherwise I sit and enjoy my music at reasonable levels. I should also add that I have other higher powered SS amps also (Naim and Carver) but prefer the tube set up for metal and everything else for that matter. |
Speaking of senile, I guess you forgot your own post.
So I am a troll because I asked you for your definition of "more musical" and until very recently you couldn't do anything but concoct meaningless word-jumbo? I asked Atmasphere what his definition of "more musical" was and he actually provided one without quoting a ton of meaningless bullsh!t. I have no argument with that, except that I believe that one's choice of speakers and that the amp in front of those speakers will have an effect on how well it reproduces a certain genre of music.
In truth, contradicting you is way easier than going to Mirriam Webster.
I remember quite a while ago, someone compared you and your rants to a character in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest." At the time, that was another post that made me laugh and I gave the poster of that one a "+100" and as I recall, you reacted badly to that as well. Seriously though, what you have in common with an institutionalized mental patient is that you exist in a world of your own making that is contradicted by reality. I was not the OP who asked the question: "what is meant by more musical" and until quite recently you couldn't even come close to providing an answer. I had to continually tell you that your answers were nonsensical and to try again. Hopefully the exercise was therapeutic for you. It was a waste of my time because I am already happy with the musicality of my system. I can sit back and enjoy what it reproduces.
Are you familiar with that old saying about those who live in glass houses? Or the put calling the kettle black?
Hey, I appreciate! Reading your stuff can be extremely entertaining. You have made me laugh more than once today! Keep up the good work!
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