Adding wireless speakers to my current, vintage analog system.


I’d like to add wireless speakers to my current setup (listed below). 

Ideally I would be able to control volume and basic EQ for the wireless speakers independent from the wired speakers, while also having a main receiver where I have control over the overall EQ/volume for all speakers - if that makes sense.

 

I like the sound and look of my vintage receivers, and would like to stay with true stereo (not single or paired mono speakers).   And I don’t want to add too much bulky gear, if possible.

 

I mainly stream Spotify (from an old MacBook to the R-2000) and play vinyl records and CDs (and occasionally cassette tape or MiniDisc). 

So far vIdeo and TV (home theater setup) have not been on my improvement radar - I’m fine with a good sound bar for the TV for now.

 

 

I live in an approx 1200 sqft open warehouse space with high ceiling, wooden floor and large windows. I don’t have a particular listening spot - I like to have good sound when I dine, but also when I cook in the kitchen corner or work in the upper mezzanine loft. 

 

Currently the KEFs and the Klipsch woofer (living room area) are driven by the R-2000, and all the Minimus-7s (upper loft and kitchen/dining area) are driven by the Nikko. 

 

For the time being I’d just replace the Minimus’ with some decent, small wireless speakers.  Probably not so easy as the Mins are surprisingly good for their size.

 

If, whatever I will add to my rig for enabling it to send sound to wireless speakers, can also function as a high-quality DAC and/or direct music streamer, that’d be an added bonus, but is not my main concern right now. 

 

 

Current setup:

  • Yamaha R-2000 - serves as main receiver and powers a pair of KEF Q500 and a Klipsch 120SW (mains). The R-2000 is then connected to:
  • Nikko NR-1219 which powers 3 pairs of Minimus-7 (secondary) in the mezzanine lofts and the kitchen/dining room
raphaz

You can get a Bluetooth receiver , such as Audioengine, and it will attach to your receiver via RCA cables.  You can transmit from a Bluetooth source, such a cell phone.  The signal will go to the Bluetooth receiver which yes has a DAC inside.

The DAC will send the now analog music signal via aforementioned cables to your AVR, which will then send it to your speakers, via the cables that attach the speakers to the AVR.  I hope you haven’t got lost yet.

  What you CANNOT do is send the Bluetooth signal directly to your speakers because your speakers have no way to receive and then amplify the signal.  In your original post you said that you wanted to transmit wirelessly from your receiver to speakers.  I suspect what you meant to say was you wanted to transmit wirelessly from a source, such as a cellphone, and otherwise keep your present system ( receiver and speakers).

  Pick up an Audioengine (I have had one for several years in one of my systems).Plug it into your receiver, stream from your phone via Bluetooth, start enjoying music, and relax

Thank you all for taking your time and being patient wth me!

mahler123:
I guess my questions are confusing as I’m not yet familiar with terms and technology, or maybe I expect more than what’s currently possible.

To clarify: I was wondering about both, wirelessly to and from the receiver.

Receiving:
One of the questions I have now is if it’s worth skipping the laptop and stream "directly" to the receiver, and if an added Bluetooth receiver/DAC is the only/best way to do that in terms of sound quality.
I understand that it’s streaming to begin with and probably one way or another always inferior to wire-connecting a CD player or a turntable. So I guess this part of the equation is more about convenience.
I just wonder, if I were to get a Bluetooth receiver, what brand/model folks here recommend (best DAC, ease of setup and use, stability of signal, least amount of footprint...).

Sending (to speakers):
I understand that I cannot send sound directly from my receiver to my current speakers. I’d have to get wireless speakers, which seem to have wireless receivers built in (making them capable of receiving a wireless, digital signal). In addition I probably need some sort of transmitter connected to my receiver if I want to send a wireless/digital signal from my receiver to the speakers (when playing my turntable for example), correct?
Do I need to match the transmitter brand to the wireless speaker brand (proprietary technology) or do I have a choice, can I mix and match?
Either way, what wireless speaker and transmitter brands/models do folks here recommend (sound quality, uninterrupted signal, ease of setup and use...)?

Also:
I also heard that small devices can be added to existing analog speakers to make them capable of receiving wireless. Does anybody here have experience with that? Is it complicated? How’s the sound quality? What do folks here recommend?

New receiver?
I start wondering if it would be worth looking for a newer receiver with the desired technology built in.
Are there receivers out there that can match the sound and looks of my current setup?
Would I need to match receiver and speaker brand (proprietary tech)?
If I invest in something like that, do some of these come with separate/multi-channel options – so that I can control the volume of one pair of speakers independent from another pair of speakers?

Thank you all for sharing your advice and experience!
I’ll be happy to share mine once I get to a satisfying solution.

After a bit more research I come to understand that there is Bluetooth and then there is WiFi. And WiFi seems to be the better choice when it comes to hi-res/losless sound quality. Ideally I get something with capabilities for both, WiFi and Bluetooth. 

If so, it comes down to a Receiver and Transmitter with WiFi and Bluetooth capability, a good DAC and flexible option for good speakers  – if that exists – which most likely limits the selection and makes it more expansive.
I can dream, right? Sigh!

I think that you have some fundamental lack of understanding here, although you seem to be progressing.  I recommend reading the latest version about Hi Fi by Robert Harley.  He updates his book every few years and I don’t doubt that he has a chapter that covers the basics of streaming.  His magazine, The Absolute Sound, had a good series on basics a few years ago that should be easy to Google.

  So let’s try to be basic.  Streaming involves playing computer files through your Hi Fi system.  Those files are either stored on a commercial server (Amazon, Apple, Spotify, etc) or else on some kind of storage in your own collection, such as a hard drive or a usb stick.

   The files can sent via Ethernet, which is a wired connection to your Internet Modem/Router (I assume you know what a router is, since you use a laptop and are accessing this site).  Or the files can be sent without a wired connection.

  WiFi is the standard for wireless.  Hopefully you know what WIFi is. If you use your laptop to access the without being tethered to an Ethernet cable, or a cellphone, you are using WiFi.  Your HiFi system  does need a receiver for the WiFi signal.

  Bluetooth is another way to send wireless files.  Related technologies are Apple AirPlay and Google Chromecast.  In general you need a sender and a receiver for these as well.  Bluetooth and AirPlay in general compress the original WiFi signal and are of lower Fidelity than straight WiFi.  WiFi and Ethernet in general are equivalent and uncompressed and the best sound.  I am speaking in generalities here and you might get others disagreeing with some points.