I Don't Understand What Determines When A Thread Gets The Axe


I've only been a member of Audiogon since 2016 or 2017, so maybe some "old timers" could fill me in.  I don't understand how threads covering "beaten like a dead horse" topics, for example, oh off the top of my head, "Cable Deniers", can carry on for days or weeks, have pages and pages of posts from Members that frankly get quite ugly with name calling and basically Grade School playground behavior...yet the Moderators never say a word or never step in with the, "This Discussion Is Closed" Czar-like ruling.

 

However, when a Member like, say @verdantaudio, tries to warn us about Fraudulent Retail Websites AND has proof that these sites are ripping people off, along with proof from other Audiogon Members who provide examples of these sites conducting fraudulent business activities, the Discussion is shut down and closed.  WHO decided to close the discussion?  The original poster?  Audiogon?  How do you find out?  Better yet, WHY was a topic as important as Fraud shut down after only 30 posts, some with extremely valuable information such as one member who had done a Whois.com research showing extremely sketchy information and another Member who had information about the state of Kansas Fraud Unit investigating one of the companies.

 

Is it because a Forum Member kept complaining about the post?  Do the businesses in question advertise on Audiogon?  I'm very curious who makes the decisions on which discussions get shut down and which discussions are allowed to drone on and on with behavior and comments that people would NEVER have the guts to say to one another face to face.  I've truly wondered this ever since I joined this fantastic audio community -- a place where I've learned more in 7 years than I had learned in the previous 35 years!

 

I must say I wasn't at all surprised when I saw the discussion had been closed.  After all, a Member had made this cryptic post  -- "My guess is this thread won't last."  Let's see how long this one does (before it gets zapped, I'd sure like to know the outcome of the Kansas fraud unit that is investigating the company). 

 

Slow down and enjoy the music...

allenf1963

@larry5729 -- I agree with you that Dealers should disclose that information when posting on this site either in their Username or at the end of each comment (their actual name, company name, address, etc.).

 

If you had seen this post before it was deleted, the Members who gave valuable information about these "Red Flag" online companies did just what you asked.  The original poster's username discloses he is with Verdant Audio, and a member who gave another detailed example of the unauthorized marketing and representation gave his complete name, company name, address, phone number, AND a list of the products represented.

 

EVERYTHING about the post appeared above board and as far as I could see, was intended as a public service to Members of Audiogon to hopefully keep a Member from losing thousands of dollars to a fraudulent foreign online entity.  Why the post would be shut down and deleted is freaking mind boggling to me, although there was one Member who repeatedly voiced objections to the post...even when every complaint was met with a response providing evidence that shot down the objection.  And the original poster wasn't the only one providing evidence.  As mentioned in the replies above, the shut down and deletion is eyebrow raising and makes one question the so called "Forum Discussion Rules".  I'm just glad I'm not the only Member who is puzzled.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
allenf1963

... there just seems to be a lot of discussions shut down, deleted, etc., over the last 5 years and for the life of me, I couldn’t figure out why. I have actually asked the question, but never got an answer ...

If you use the Contact Us link that is at the bottom of each page, you'll quickly receive an automated reply with a ticket number followed by a personal email from the moderator and, eventually, an automated user feedback form. That's at least three contacts for each inquiry. Something's wrong if that wasn't your result, e.g. the messages went to your spam folder, or perhaps you've confused A'gon with another audio site.

I don't notice many threads being deleted. But I tend to avoid contentious threads and I usually ignore users that seem problematic, so perhaps that explains it.

The angst over this particular deleted thread mostly overlooks the fact that the thread's OP made specific accusations of fraud and stated it was to be a repository for future such claims. That is a very distinct difference than accusing someone of shoddy service or botching an order and creates liability problems for A'gon.

A'gon allows discussion that is critical of dealers and manufacturers, but there's a limit. The post under review here was properly removed, imo.

@cleeds You do seem to be the most righteous member of Audiogon having luxury of receiving answers on why your post or discussion is getting removed. I'm not sure if there are more members with such privilege, but for us "simple folks" discussions and posts being removed either with auto-answer or with no answer at all whether we use Contact Us link or don't

I too want to give you medal for that -- how about "Honored Audiogon Member Veteran", because you really deserve it!

As for you @allenf1963 , you can clearly see what's happening. After the post removed, just try to "play" with different words so you can beat the underdeveloped algorithm of Audiogon. It often works. Looks like word Fraud is too political so you can use wrongly spelled version like "FROD" as an example, or replace with less heavy synonyms. 

You do seem to be the most righteous member of Audiogon having luxury of receiving answers on why your post or discussion is getting removed. I'm not sure if there are more members with such privilege ...

While I've always been treated fairly and courteously by Audiogon staff, I don't think I've received any privileged treatment. I know a few other A'gon users "in real life," so I know my experience isn't unique.

Because there are certain people who register fresh and post inciting videos. Did you see the thread that got axed yesterday? That same person has opened a new one today, though the good thing is no one care anything about it.