+1 to the OP and to blisshifi 😊
You don't lack bass, you have too much treble
One of the biggest surprises in audio and acoustics is how damping a room with treatments makes small speakers sound so much bigger. Yes, you get a broader, deeper soundstage but you also seem to get a lot more bass, more power, more extension!!
What's going on?
What happened is your room was too bright. The overall balance was too heavy on the mid and treble so as a result your systems balance was off.
For this reason I often suggest before A'goners start chasing bigger and bigger speakers, that they think about the room first, add damping and diffusion and then go back to thinking about the bass.
Not saying you don't need a bigger speaker, but that some rooms may never have a big enough speaker in them due to the natural reflective properties.
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@erik_squires And just what do you think you are going to do about bass in any normally sized residential space? Most audiophiles know that bass below 100 Hz is poorly localized. The dimensions of the room are of primary importance followed by the number and positioning of bass/subwoofer drivers. After that it is all about crossover programming and digital signal processing backed up by a lot of power. Bass has nothing to do with size. Low bass is more about feeling, you either feel it or you don't. Most people don't. The initial impact of a bass drum occurs at higher frequencies. The vibration of the bass drum heads after that impact occurs at very low frequencies as long as the drum does not have it's damper on. On Brittany Howard's Jaime the first cut History Repeats has a beautifully recorded bass drum with it's damper off. You can feel the pressure waves after the initial strike tapering over about 10 cycles. I can see it in my windows in the right light. It is not something you hear. There is absolutely nothing you can do in a room to make this happen other than blow out a wall. The problem for most audiophiles is that most systems do not project the power needed to reproduce this kind of bass. What a speaker measures at one meter means absolutely nothing. Most audiophiles do not even know what they are missing because they have never heard a system reproduce low bass like this. In a 16 X 30 foot room It takes at least two 15" subwoofers each powered by at least 2000 watts. For really low distortion four 15" subwoofers. The same applies for Imaging. Most have never heard a system image at the state of the art because very few systems can do it. If you want BIG sound under all circumstances get line source speakers such a big Maggies or 8 foot Sound Labs. Line sources composed of multiple drivers like the old Nearfield Pipedreams do not work well. It has been tried many times without much success. Point source speakers always produce a small image as if you are seated far away, even the big ones. What you see affects what you hear. When listening for imaging characteristics you always close your eyes. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to all you Irish folks |
Wow, @mijostyn you keep arguing about things I'm not talking about so I'm going to just let you have that conversation over in the corner by yourself. Have a great weekend. |
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