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How much should I expect with a warranty issue from a large retailer/distributor?

I have a "new" Rose HiFi 150b, that I love, but it has technical issue. The XLR outputs produce a softer/duller/quieter sound on the left channel.

I noticed the issue as soon as I received my new amp with XLR inputs, with XLR-out being a primary reason I picked the 150B. I could not afford to get the new amp until 4 months later, then spent 2.5 months pin-pointing the issue to the 150b.

So, by the time I called the retailer, it was outside of their 90-day replacement window, so I got sent to the distributor. The distributor wants me to send the unit across the country (NC to NV), at my expense, and then they will fix and return, at their expense. They state they may or may not have the parts in stock.

I feel strongly that the XLR-out issue was there from the very beginning and desire the unit to be replaced. Am I expecting too much? Bullet points below provide more background:

  • Purchased the unit from Crutchfield. Best price + I live in NC mountains, so no opportunity to buy local.
  • MoFi is the US distributor of Rose HiFi, so I am dealing with them on the repair/return.
  • Talked to Rose HiFi, their high-level techs agree the "audio board" is defective, apologized multiple times, but their hands are tied - sent me to MoFi.
  • Crutchfield will only replace in first 90 days, they sent me to MoFi.
  • I really do not want to send a new-ish $4,500 piece of delicate kit on two cross country bumpy rides. Ouch!
  • I asked MoFi if they could send me an "Audio board" and I would pay a local tech to install it. Rose-HiFi’s suggestion. MoFi ignored this idea.
  • Crutchfield has an "open box" unit on their outlet website, asked if I could trade for that; they didn’t much listen to that.
  • Again, as soon as I got the new amp with XLR inputs (Accuphase E-380, new), the problem was apparent. RCA works fine. I am CONFIDENT the XLR outputs were broken when brand new.
  • I have escalated with Crutchfield, the nice front-line tech support person I spoke with said he would talk to their "merchandising" team to see if there was anything else they could do. Waiting patiently.

So, do I just need to box it up, pay $100 shipping, and wait a month as MoFi suggests? Or do I dig-in and try to get Crutchfield, MoFi, Rose HiFi to replace? If I dig-in, what is best approach, and with who? Or maybe I am expecting too much?

I hope I have not learned an expensive lesson in dealing with an Internet retailer, like Crutchfield? Maybe they will step-up. Will report back either way.

 

gemoody
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glennewdick
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seems fair to me you only have to pay shipping one direction. what are you complaining about that's great service specialty as they have been upfront and actually replying to your emails/calls. I'd be happy with their service, better then so many others. 

one note; they cannot tell if replacing your unit is a viable cost effective repair path until they have the unit and asses the issues. example, could be a bad solder joint at the XLR connector 2 min fix, could be more but they wont know until they have the unit.  

 

cundare2
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FWIW, I bought a HiFi Rose 250 DAC/Streamer from Crutchfield last year and found that it did not respond to its remote. Crutchfield sent out a new remote, no charge, and we confirmed that it was the streamer, not the remote. I returned the unit & got a full refund -- including shipping both ways.

I realize that anecdotal evidence isn’t worth much, but those who criticize Crutchfield in this conversation could not have had experiences remotely like mine. I’d buy from CF any time, based on the superb service they provided.

By the way, this was an open-box unit that I’d bought at a discount. (That was the reason I didn’t merely exchange my unit -- it was the only one in stock at a discounted price.) So in this case, Crutchfield’s response was even more impressive.

 

gemoody OP
134 posts
 

OP here….

I’m not here to complain. I’m new to spending this much money in this hobby. Am just trying to understand what’s customary, and maybe about successes or ideas folks may have had in these situations  The input has been clarifying.

That said, I am disappointed that new gear never worked as designed, but also understand the practical matters of this situation; timing, costs, business models, …

Thanks again for the responses.  Will report back next week.  Interest developments, I think.

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larsman
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This is why warranties come with time periods. You're lucky they offered to do what they did; good luck! 

grislybutter
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I think it's disappointing that such an expensive gear fails. If I had that much money or the tenth of it, I would want to hear it on day one. I would find out by day 3 that it's not 100% working. 

Some companies have great reputation, reliability and service. Seems like this one with its distribution chain is a bit messy. I can't imagine a similar story with e.g. Parasound or Simaudio. (I should be open to imagine anything though :) 

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