Watts! How many do we need?


Got a new amp. Accuphase P-4600. It’s great. I love it. 
150 watts into 8 ohms, 300 watts into 4 ohms and it has meters so I can see wattage. Have them set on freeze so I can see the highest wattage during the session.

My Harbeth speakers are not very efficient. Around 86db. Their impedance is an even 6 ohms dipping no lower than 5.8 ohms. 

Playing HiRes dynamic classical recordings  ( Tchaikovsky , Mahler) at room filling volumes I have yet to exceed 1watt.. 

Amps today offer a lot of watts some going to 600 even 1200 watts. Even if you have inefficient speakers with an impedance that dips down to 2 ohms do we need all this wattage or should we be focusing on current instead? 

jfrmusic

FYI

there are several Stringrays at a good price here in Audiogon.

as well as a great pair of Snappers; if you have a little extra and want 100wpc.

From my experience with solid state, current was the primary determinant if the amp was up to the task, the more the better. From my tube amp experience, it is far, far less important. So I went from high current 350 wpc solid state to 70 wpc tube amplification and my system sounds so much better it is amazing. It is a high quality amp… I am sure there is a difference between 70 wpc with an inexpensive light weight tube amp and a good one.

I happened to be looking at the meters the other day and noticed they were peaking at 1.5 watts output. I realize analog meters are slow and will not capture the full extent of what is going on and perhaps the meters use a proxy parameter to measure watts… but still interesting. Seems there is some truth in the saying “it’s the first watt that is most important.”

I can switch my amp between 70 wpc and 140 wpc. I noticed the same average power output in either mode but the peaks in sound would send the meters quickly far to the right (higher output) in 70 wpc mode… which makes sense. Even at deafening volume my tube amp does not run out of power. While my past experiences with 75 - 150 wpc solid state either never had good solidity or loss it when pressed to higher volumes (not necessarily ear splitting). The other thing I notice is that my amp sounds much more natural and musical without loss of dynamics in the 70 wpc triode mode vs the 140 wpc ultra linear mode.

@ghdprentice 

I’m puzzled by your experience. I don’t doubt it but since current x volts equals watts. What you are describing is that lower current sounds better. So something else is going on when you switch to high watts. 

I have an original Schitt Aegir (20 w/ch 8 ohms) and a pair of Ohm 1000 speakers in a 15' X 24' room with a vaulted ceiling -- absolutely no problem reaching my desired listening level (85 dB average) with no hint of clipping or compressed dynamics.  Two caveats, however.  First I use a powered subwoofer and roll off the deep bass to the Ohms. Deep bass can be a power hog  Second, as many know, the relationship between watts and volume level is logarithmic, not linear. Doubling the power gets you 3 dB more volume. Doubling the perceived volume takes 10 times more power. So, if you are a headbanger, and have medium or low sensitive speakers, or have a large room, you're going to need a lot more power than I do.

But, as others have noted, lotsa watts are an attractive advertising carrot. And Class D amps have made it easier to offer that carrot these days.