Ethernet cable for music streaming


I know there have been threads on this topic, including my own from last year, but I'd like to pursue this issue further, perhaps from a slightly different angle. Here's my conundrum: I'm not getting the sound quality from my Innuos PulseMini streamer that I think it's capable of and I've never been able to put my finger on what the weak link in my system is. I'm streaming Qobuz through the Innuos SenseApp on my Samsung tablet. While some parts of the frequency range sound really good (bass, mid-bass, lower mids, e.g.), when we get to the range where vocals live and above, the sound loses fidelity and definition. Things sound fuzzy and muddled, especially if the music is complex or dense. Loud orchestral passages can be really unpleasant to listen to.

The streamer is connected via USB to a Sonnet Morpheus DAC, and is fed via ethernet cable from my AT&T router. It's about a 35 ft. run of CAT5 that goes under the house and up through the floor of my listening (living) room. It doesn't run near any other electric lines. There's an ethernet switch that divides the signal between the TV, the Roku box, and the streamer. I do have the option of running a dedicated line from the router to the streamer, but I need some advice on whether this will improve things any. I tried plugging the existing ethernet cable into the streamer directly, bypassing the switch, but this yielded no improvement. 

Would it help to use CAT6 or CAT6a cable for this run? And should it be shielded or unshielded? I've read some posts that indicate shielded cables introduce their own distortions into the signal, so I'm really not sure which way to go here. 

I'd be grateful for advice from the many of you who are more expert on this subject than I am. Thanks.

cooper52

Were you able to narrow the issue to networking?  I'd suggest eliminating the rest of your chain before driving yourself crazy.  If you have a laptop, you can buy a USB-C Ethernet adapter to help run diagnostics.  You can also look up your internet modem, find the login and check logs then work downtream.  I recently had to do this and discovered the issue was with my exterior connection coming into the house, which was causing enough noise to causing odd slowdowns and random internet issues.

Also, be careful of running ethernet next to power.  It's fairly susceptible to EMI interference.

Here's a guideline:  Cable Guidelines for Data Integrity

Op,

I have not re-read the thread…. But getting better sound at this point would most easily be done by getting a better streamer. The better the streamer the better the sound… it makes up for and problems with the network. I recommend an Aurrender… the best you can afford. My rule of thumb is that carefully chosen $ Streamer = $ DAC = $Preamp = $ amp. In my system the streamer is about 20% more than the DAC and preamp and is simply stunning.

For $300 I'd give SmoothLan Network Filter a go and send it back if it doesn't help. 

Ozzy started on thread on SmoothLan here

I just got mine today, and I didn't have a problem to solve (that I knew of). Mine will not be going back. I don't know how it works but the change was instant and not subtle. 

I've tried 2 other inline filters: EverStar and iFi LAN filter and they did nothing. (no surprise, and no risk with Amazon)

My guess is those with high end switches, external clocks and very high end streamer/DACs would not benefit as much but I dont have any of those things.

System details in my profile.

 

 

I second @ghdprentice nothing will have as big of an impact as a streamer or a dac upgrade or both. All the tweaks like switches, converters, LPS, filters…that’s pretty much just lipstick on a pig. Waste of time, money and space.

That maybe the case, but the OP thinks his Innuos is underperforming due to networking / long ethernet cables etc. 

No suggestion he is looking to upgrade his Innuos. And if there is an issue with the feed into the streamer, a new streamer may also underperform.

YMMV but I've done very well getting the most out of my Node N130 by adding an LPS, good cables, a decent tube DAC and now the SmoothLan and everything made a real difference (I only stream and listen to Qobuz and SXM Radio, but primary source is vinyl). Super happy with SQ. I'm looking at more than double the investment to best it. Which I will at some point but low priority.

If the OP does have budget and  the appetite for a new streamer, I would not buy anything that I could not return after an in-home trial given his current situation.

That will be 2 cents please.