I Sold my CD Player!!! Streaming sounds so incredible!!!

 "Vinyl and CD are more popular than ever????" Unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, just the opposite of what you stated is true. Yes, vinyl and CD may still be popular with old farts like us, for all the reasons you so explicitly stated. However, amongst the young, say, ages 18-40, vinyl and CD are virtually nonexistent. In today’s world, the vast majority of those who represent the future of high end audio, or, music listening in general, stream their music exclusively. Yes, I’m afraid that todays world of high end audio has become more like an exclusive club for more well-heeled senior citizens like us who grew up with and are still clinging onto the old technologies that we still hold so dear to our hearts. And that, in a nutshell is what today’s high end audio represents. High end audio seems to be becoming a dying breeds, perhaps because of it’s inability to embrace and promote the new digital technologies, instead of allowing itself to become dominated by the old and antiquated. Go take a visit to your local high end audio shop, or go out and attend one of the big audio shows, you’d think you were at an old folks convention for the middle age and beyond, Lol. Sad, considering how beautiful and vibrant the world of high end audio was in years past. If there is to be a long term future for high end audio, it must embrace the new digital world, or else it will eventually fade away along with all us old farts. Happy listening.

Music streaming = 84% of music industry revenue

Spotify subscriber count = 700+ Million

Apple music subscriber count = 200+ million

Bandcamp: 180+ million

Soundcloud: 140+ million

Youtube music = 100+ million

Amazon music: 82+ million

Sirius XM: 33+ million

Deezer: 10+ million

Pandora: 6+ million

Napster: 5 million

Tidal = 2 million

Qobuz = 200k

etc

Number of vinyl records sold in 2023: 49 million

Number of CDs sold in 2023: 38 million

Such is life, it appears.

@wolf_garcia +1 I can agree that many artists receive too little compensation. But lets imagine a world without streaming where record companies control the marketing and promotion of artists they chose to work with. So, you're a beginning artist, who's going to market, promote, press hard copy for you! Nope, you better have big bucks behind you if you're independent of the record companies.

Don't delude yourself there was some golden age for artists in this country. Just last night I was listening to Randy Burns, acid folk artist from NYC from back in the 60's, in the vein of Pearls Before Swine, both on the legendary indie label ESP. These guys never made a buck, were hardly heard, sad, sad, sad. And I can say this about tons of both old and contemporary artists I've only found because of streaming. Did all those bebop jazz and blues musicians benefit from the old ways, nope. And how about all the musicians who couldn't even get signed to any label, they die and/or leave music without anyone other than a few close friends getting to hear their music.

I mostly despise  hard copy business model these days, how about the thousandth release of some Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan or any of a hundred old artists, albums selling for high dollars. Just how much money do you think average consumers have to spend on music, their entire monthly budget could be used up on a single album.  The hard copy way of doing business is obsolete, only a few artists benefit at all.

Streaming  and live performance/marketing will be the only business model going forward for vast majority of artists. It will be up to artists and consumers which way it goes in regard to remuneration.

Name me one artist, group, or orchestra that is satisfied with the present system and wouldn’t want to go back to the older one. Yes, that one had its problems but they pale in comparison. Musicians just adapted and now it’s the new normal.

Back when Napster first came out, all the online comments were: screw the artists, I don’t care, why buy it when I can get it for free, f*ck them all, etc. It became a thieves nation on a musical scale (pardon the pun).

A whole industry was built on that frame of mind which brings us to the present, with companies finding new ways to dig even deeper into our pockets. They even created an entire new value system to back it up to make one memory hole the past.

When I buy from someplace like Bandcamp, they offer downloads, vinyl and CDs at their respective prices. They even give you the option of paying more if you like and the shipping is on me. It’s one of the few refuges where artists can make a buck. I don’t mind that at all. Sometimes the artist will sell on Amazon and if so, I’ll buy it from there.

When Alexander saw the breadth of his music domain, he wept and then went streaming.

All the best,
Nonoise

Still listen to cds, reel to reel, vinyl and streaming…love each format…nothing about that will change…

I haven't played CDs in a long time, but I still buy CDs very often. 

I bought a Aurender N150 a couple years ago and it is excellent, but the reason I went with Aurender over Roon was the built in hard drive.

I have Qobuz and use it sometimes, but I mostly listen to my music library which is CDs ripped in WAV format onto the built in solid state hard drive. Streaming sounds pretty good and the Hi Res stuff is above the regular CD quality streams... BUT my ripped music library on the internal hard drive absolutely blows away anything on Qobuz... Often when I hear a new album or artist I discover on Qobuz I will buy the CD and add it to my collection..