Are all streamers the same?


Dogma says they’re all the same. Experience suggests otherwise. Price may or may not be guide. Are there solid tech reasons such as bleed of noise into the digital signal? What does “it’s all about the ‘implementation’”really mean? How come power cords and interconnects make a difference? For example, there are numerous USB cords that separate the power from the signal cables to minimize interference and noise transference.

Why don’t we have an accepted science of audio, as yet? Where’s the research compilation esp at textbook level? Yes I’m happy just listening and using my ears and my biases to make judgments; no problem.

Yet I continue to see dogma, from the USA and Europe, indeed everywhere, that remains steadfast in their disbelief in variances. It becomes tiresome at times. But hey what do I care? Lol, my pursuit of fidelity and knowledge remain equally strong.

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Not all audio streamers are the same, and they can indeed sound different. Here are a few key factors that contribute to these differences:

  1. Digital-to-Analog Converter (DAC): The quality of the DAC inside the streamer can significantly impact sound quality. Higher-end streamers often have better DACs, which can produce clearer and more detailed audio.
  2. Build Quality and Components: The materials and components used in the construction of the streamer, such as capacitors and resistors, can affect the sound. High-quality components can reduce noise and distortion.
  3. Software and Firmware: The software and firmware that manage the streaming process can also influence sound quality. Some streamers have better algorithms for handling digital signals, leading to improved audio performance.
  4. Connectivity Options: The types of connections available (e.g., Ethernet, Wi-Fi, USB) and their quality can impact the stability and quality of the audio signal.

Regarding the power supply, it plays a crucial role in the performance of an audio streamer:

  • Noise and Interference: A high-quality power supply can reduce electrical noise and interference, which can otherwise degrade the audio signal. This is particularly important for sensitive audio equipment.
  • Stability: A stable power supply ensures that the streamer operates consistently, which can help maintain sound quality. Fluctuations in power can introduce noise and affect the performance of the internal components.
  • Isolation: Some high-end streamers use isolated power supplies to prevent interference from other devices. This isolation can lead to a cleaner and more accurate sound.

In summary, while all audio streamers serve the same basic function, their design, components, and power supply can lead to noticeable differences in sound quality. If you’re looking for the best possible audio experience, it’s worth considering these factors when choosing a streamer123.

CoPilot.

……yes they are all the same but they have the same father but different mothers 

Yes, not all high end streamers are the same. First thing is, most high end streamers do not have DACs. Most high end DACs do not have streamers. Combining those functions compromise the sound quality of both. This has certainly been demonstrated in the streamers, DACs, and combined units I have had in my system or seriously auditioned.

I think it depends. When things start as a streamer, and then the DAC part gets added, it always seems like a compromise to me. This is how I felt about all the Aurender models I've ever tried with analog outputs. Not that they sound bad, just not on the same level as using a separate DAC with an existing Aurender unit (with digital outputs only). 

When they obviously started life primarily as a DAC, then added the streaming part, that tends to work better imho. That would be some of the newer dCS DACs, certain Bricasti Designs models, the Matrix Element series, the Bryston 3.14, and others like that. I guess one could argue if these fit the definition of a really "high end" device but I have a hard time excluding the Esoteric N-01XD SE or dCS Bartok Apex as not qualifying.

It might have to do with streaming requirements being simpler these days. I just want integrated Roon bridge functionality, I don't need an entire music server with disc ripper and built-in album art editor etc. So it's easier to add the network bridge to a DAC than the other way around. 

Bits are bits. But sometimes DAC designers screw that up. Floyd Toole's book is considered the science of audio.