The Low Volume Loudness Dilemma


I love the power and detail of music played at what I call "Actual instrument volume" which is pretty loud and dominating. 

I like music in the background when I'm reading or entertaining. The problem is that the fullness and richness is thin to gone at low volume. This seems to be the case no matter how much a system costs. I listened to a Burmester rig driving a set of Wilson Alexx V speakers in a perfectly tuned listening room with cabling that costs more than my Lexus and the "missing music" at low volume problem was there too. $350,000 in gear couldn't fix it. 

I did the unthinkable - I bought a DBX 2231 equalizer off of eBay for a couple hundred bucks and messed around with the sound curve. Viola! "Loudness"!  I know this is sacrilege and may cause excommunication by the purist class but I am able to get full rich sound at low levels. The Eq also compensates for the anomalies in my listening area (large great room with other rooms connected to it.)

I don't have the square footage or budget to build a proper dedicated listening room with all the sound management treatments so I'm "making due" with what I do have. 

Does anybody have some guidance or constructive thoughts on how to get full rich music at low SPLs? 

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"As far as enhancement devices (EQs, loudness contours, etc) are concerned, it would be nice if they could be placed in a tape or accessory loop so they can be switch in/out of the signal path at normal listening levels."

Yes, this. The ARC SP3 preamp had a tone defeat button. Along with the usual treble and bass controls, it had a knob for something they called "Contour", aka loudness. I rarely used them but when I did I was quite happy to have them.

I'm all for the 'straight wire with gain' philosophy but in the real world, a bit of help is not a bad thing IMHO.

Happy listening.

I have the the newish Luxman L-507z. It has Bass and Treble controls and yes a Loudness button. It also has a line straight button that bypasses everything and is pure from the amp. I listen at 70db at nite on my cornwall IVs. Almost sounds too loud sometimes late at nite. But they sound is deep and rich withe great upper extension. Just a normal family room with no treatment. I rarely use any tone controls at all

My experience has been how well a system performs at low volume is hard to pin exactly to the source. However mine has gotten better and better at lower and lower volumes the better my system has gotten and now I happily enjoy 65 - 70 db. At this volume I get the fully nuanced and dynamic sound I crave. When playing a symphony I adjust it to where the sounds just barely audible coming from the sound floor are that, and crescendos are at the upper limit of undistorted hearing. But symphonies have the highest dynamic range.

 

From your descriptions of what you value in sound quality suggests that an equalizer is your solution. You want it to sound loud when it is not. If I were you, I would get the best quality equalizer you can. Folks that love loud music tend to appreciate the dynamics and force and not so much the nuanced detail… so the equalizer will improve what you love and not effect what you don’t.

The problem with loudness contour functions in most implementations is that they fail to calibrate to a reference level.  Most overcompensate, and become boom generators.  In this respect, Yamaha’s variable loudness is superior to others.  The best implementation is YPAO Volume, a feature of MusicCast, which takes a microphone snapshot of your room and speaker together, and sets the reference level, EQ, and loudness compensation in one holistic swoop.  Next best is a preamp with a traditional loudness button used with an amplifier equipped with variable input gain. You lower the gain so that the volume setting where compensation tapers off matches the loudness your ear tells you you no longer need it…the “reference level”.  The last best way is with an equalizer.  I use a Schiit Loki+ in the EPL of my Conrad Johnson PF-R linestage, and it helps a lot.

I purchased the Schiit Lokius and set it up in my preamp tape loop.  With my preamp remote I select tape to listen to the EQd sound.

I would love to have a Schiit Loki Max but am ok with one EQd setting.  If you want to store additional EQs or make adjustments on the fly it's definitely the way to go.