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Phono preamp for a Denon 103R cartridge.

Hi all. After picking up a new cartridge, and moving the upstairs stereo to a different room, I began to think about where to take the next step with that system. I'm not going to digitize my vinyl. I am just going to savor it, without collecting too many more LPs. Theoretically. But I'd like to best the ProJect DS2 Phono Box USB, if possible. For under $1500, with lower being favored rather "stretching" for an $1800 item. I just don't think my collection or systems warrant such a leap.

The table is a Denon DP 3000NE. The preamp is a Pass X2.5, and I'll use the low gain setting. I'm mildly interested in a phono pre that has XLR output, but it's not crucial. I'm most interested in what might go well with this cartridge primarily.

This morning I'm leaning toward a JC3 Jr, and on other days I have wondered about a Hagerman, but six tubes will mean spending a bit more. A Sutherland. perhaps? Or something with front panel adjustments?

 

Thanks for your consideration.

zarf
sls883
387 posts
 

I have a Sutherland TZ Vibe that I use with a Hana ML moving coil cartridge and it's excellent.  I haven't heard it with your cartridge.  Ron Sutherland is a very nice man if you wanted to visit with him. He has a good return policy if you wanted to try one. Google it and you should find a number of favorable comments. 

theflattire
192 posts
 

Darlington Labs

mike4597
96 posts
 

I recommend you look at the Lounge Audio LCR series of phono preamplifiers.  There are three models, ranging in price from $420 (LCR III) basic model, to $610 (Silver), to $870 (Gold).  I am not familiar with your cartridge, but if it is a MC you will need a step-up transformer, which Lounge Audio has for $440 (standard model) or $595 (Silver Wire model).  I purchased the Gold model to use with my Thorens TD 126 MKII turntable and Audio-Technica MM cartridge, and I was simply stunned by the quality of reproduction, so much so that I am beginning to look at purchasing more vinyl discs.  TheLounge phono preamplifier does a wonderful job of reproducing music that sounds so much more .... .... "organic and alive" than many of my digital recordings.  Finally, they are hand-made right here in the US, in the Los Angeles area; I talked several times with Robert Morin, the founder of Lounge Audio and the man who, along with family members, crafts each unit.  Is it "the best thing out there?"  Probably not, but at the price it yields a superb performance.

inagroove
119 posts
 

Zarf

I have used 103Rs (4 in all) for many years.

During that time I also upgraded to my Phono Preamp to a Zesto Andros 1.2.  It is a very flexible Pre (lots of Ohm settings, even separate L/R grounds) and sounded great with the 103Rs.  

It uses 4 12Ax7 tubes (2 per channel and inexpensive to replace) and to my ear, it out performs SS options. 

Because it is an older model, second-hand units are quite inexpensive on AG and elsewhere.

Lastly, the Owner/Designer, George, still answers the phone himself (I called him to chat about tube rolling).

Good luck,

P.S. I am an end-user and not affiliated with the audio industry

allenf1963
342 posts
 

I got a good deal on a Sutherland KC Vibe, and I was blown away at the sound quality I heard for under $700.  I can say the same for the Schiit Mani 2.  I gave my son a Rega P3 I wasn't using to see if they would get into vinyl, and needed an inexpensive phono amp.  I bought the Mani based on my prior experience with Schiit Audio products. Incredible performance for the price.

 

There's no need to take out a second mortgage to achieve quality sound.  I just laugh when I see people on here debating on gear that cost as much as my pick up truck, bass boat and trailer.  Believe me, the truck, boat, and trailer will get used a lot more and will have much greater resell value.  I love my music and my 60+ year vinyl collection -- but my vintage system sounds fine.

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