Enough is Enough


I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1

I cannot believe that the dealer asked you to chuck away everything in your system. Only a moron would say things like that about the components you own and the treatments you have in place to make it sound optimal. He must have smoked something, just before you entered his store!

@ricred1 I got your PM but audiogon won't let me reply unless I give them a credit card.  with all the hacks going on, I don't put my credit card on servers just to sit there and be hacked, so I can't reply.  

I found the Lampi bigger and fuller and extremely detailed.  the soundstage is indeed excellent on the DAVE but loved the sound of the GG3.  I can't compare to the Atlantic since I went right for the DHT.  However, Lampi's flagship, the Horizon is a Pentode based output.  I recently spent a weekend listening to it with Lukas and a few others using the Taiko XDMI and it was spectacular, but way above the price range you're shopping in.

Best of luck,

Jerry

 

20 years ago when I was just getting into high-end audio and had money to burn, my audio dealer talked me out of buying a new preamp." The world does not need a new preamplifier company, and you don't need a new pre-amplifier." He had not sold me my preamp and could have sold me a brand new one for more but he knew that I didn't need it. His son still carries on his business in Maryland years after he died and I'm always going to remember what an honest and thoughtful guy he was. So any dealer who tells me that I would have to start over is simply asking for money and not for trust.

Once upon a time of mine, long ago and at the west end of this country....

I was in the market for a new Toyota p/u.... Living in Oakland at the time, I visited a local dealer and got what I felt was a reasonable ask, but wanted to push the point and see if I could improve on a deal.

Visited a different dealer or three, who all came up with a number that was generally higher, the last claiming in it's ads they'd beat any other dealers' price.
When I mentioned the price quoted at my local dealer, he sniffed 

"Those n*****s will do that just to make a sale and screw you over anyway.."

I excused self to visit the restroom shortly, and sought the sales manager, and repeated the comment...."You ought to have fired that assh*le yesterday".. and left.

Yes, the local salesman was black, stayed on the quote, and the Toy was a 'runner' for our 10-ish years, sold to a buddy who, last seen, was still driving it.

Some salesfolk of the time should have been riding the trash trucks of the time on the back of it.

What I hope for in sales personnel is rationality and couth...If I dare 'waste one's time' it's to pay attention to the attitude of the F2F encounter v. the entity I've encountered....

Since then, I describe self as 'beige', not white....to the point of adding it on a form.

To quote Frank:  "I'm not black, but sometimes I wish I wasn't white...."

The truly white have to wear protection from the sun....and the condition is exhibited in all races....

Any audio sales shmuck that would imply that I ought to dump my happy collection of audio odd would and will get the same rough route from me.

Life is short enough as it is...and I'm closing in on the stub of it.

....and "heaven is in your mind..."

Know yours. 👍  Good luck, J

@carlsbad2, As per my PM TO You, Audiogon did Not ask me for a credit card to send you my PM. You said “you got your PM but audiogon won’t let me reply unless I give them a credit card”.

I do not understand why Audiogon asks you for a credit card. Please review.